Tariffs and inflation

[halfchubb1294]

I get that. I just have no idea of what a win looks like.

Trump has said he wants balanced trade between us and CA/MX, which seems impossible given relative populations and the massive difference in our economy versus theirs.

Looks like the Trump tariff threat worked in less than 48 hours......He wants the border secured and he got his wish from the President of Mexico by sending 10k troops to the border. This is not about a trade war. It's a drug war and Trump is willing to threat tariffs if Mexico doesnt comply with our border policies.

 

[DTwnDawg]

Here we go. Anyone want to take a pass at explaining how these widespread tariffs are going to help control inflation? I work with a number of manufacturers with production plants in CA and MX and I can tell you that this is not good.

Also, look for you pharmaceuticals (along with a long list of other items) to spike in price.

🇨🇦 U.S. Imports from Canada
- Crude Oil & Petroleum Products – Largest import, crucial for U.S. energy supply
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – Canada is a major supplier for U.S. automakers
- Lumber & Wood Products – Essential for construction and furniture
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Includes turbines, engines, and heavy equipment
- Aluminum & Steel – Used in manufacturing, construction, and defense
- Natural Gas – Key for U.S. energy production
- Electrical Equipment – Power distribution components, transformers
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Includes vaccines, surgical tools
- Food & Agricultural Products – Wheat, canola, seafood, dairy products
- Aircraft & Aerospace Parts – Canada’s Bombardier is a major supplier

🇲🇽 U.S. Imports from Mexico
- Vehicles & Auto Parts – A critical supply chain for U.S. carmakers
- Computers & Electronics – Laptops, smartphones, semiconductors
- Machinery & Manufacturing Equipment – Includes industrial tools and robotics
- Medical Devices & Pharmaceuticals – Mexico is a key exporter of medical goods
- Agricultural Products – Avocados, tomatoes, berries, peppers, and tequila
- Oil & Petroleum Products – Fuel, refined oils
- Clothing & Textiles – Apparel, footwear, and fabric materials
- Appliances & Consumer Goods – Refrigerators, washing machines, and home goods
- Beer & Alcoholic Beverages – Mexico is the top supplier of beer to the U.S.
- Aerospace Components – Parts for planes and satellites

🇨🇳 U.S. Imports from China
- Electronics & Computers – Smartphones, laptops, semiconductors, networking equipment
- Machinery & Industrial Equipment – Manufacturing tools, robots, and heavy equipment
- Furniture & Home Goods – Sofas, tables, decorations
- Toys, Games & Sporting Equipment – The majority of U.S. toy imports come from China
- Clothing & Footwear – Shoes, apparel, and textiles
- Plastics & Rubber Products – Packaging, auto parts, medical supplies
- Pharmaceuticals & Medical Equipment – Generic drugs, masks, syringes
-Steel & Aluminum Products – Components for construction and manufacturing
- Auto Parts – Batteries, electronics, interior components
- Chemicals & Fertilizers – Essential for agriculture and industry

Mexico agrees to deploy 10,000 troops to US border in exchange for tariff pause

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum has agreed to deploy 10,000 national guard troops to block drug trafficking at the U.S.-Mexico border.

www.foxnews.com

 

[willdup]

Mexico agrees to deploy 10,000 troops to US border in exchange for tariff pause

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum has agreed to deploy 10,000 national guard troops to block drug trafficking at the U.S.-Mexico border.

www.foxnews.com

Mexico already has 15,000 National Guard members along its northern border with us. So, will this new agreement take the total number to 25K?

90% of fentanyl seizures occur at U.S. ports of entry—not from people crossing the border illegally.

The vast majority is smuggled in by Americans, concealed in vehicles, and often evading detection by U.S. Border Patrol. U.S. citizens have comprised 86% of fentanyl trafficking convictions.

As such, I remain unclear on exactly what we are getting here. Regardless, I'll be relieved if we successfully navigate this episode without spiking inflation and tanking our economy.

 

[DTwnDawg]

Mexico already has 15,000 National Guard members along its northern border with us. So, will this new agreement take the total number to 25K?

90% of fentanyl seizures occur at U.S. ports of entry—not from people crossing the border illegally.

The vast majority is smuggled in by Americans, concealed in vehicles, and often evading detection by U.S. Border Patrol. U.S. citizens have comprised 86% of fentanyl trafficking convictions.

As such, I remain unclear on exactly what we are getting here. Regardless, I'll be relieved if we successfully navigate this episode without spiking inflation and tanking our economy.

SERIOUS TDS…lol…you take first place by a long shot

 

[willdup]

SERIOUS TDS…lol…you take first place by a long shot

I'm sorry that reasonable questions mixed with some facts causes you so much distress. Perhaps spend the rest of the day watching Newsmax and all will feel right with the world again.

 

[Dirty Hairy Dawg]

I get that. I just have no idea of what a win looks like.

Trump has said he wants balanced trade between us and CA/MX, which seems impossible given relative populations and the massive difference in our economy versus theirs.

Well, it appears we can see what half of the win looks like. I get it, Trump is easy to dislike but like anything and everyone else, it's best to withhold judgement until results start rolling in.

 

[DTwnDawg]

I'm sorry that reasonable questions mixed with some facts causes you so much distress. Perhaps spend the rest of the day watching Newsmax and all will feel right with the world again.

No disteress here..look at your number of post compared to mine..its comedy hr for me reading y’alls shi+….we see where the distress comes from LOL..TDS!! Must be a miserable life! You are gonna love the next four yrs! BUCKLE UP!

 

[DTwnDawg]

I'm sorry that reasonable questions mixed with some facts causes you so much distress. Perhaps spend the rest of the day watching Newsmax and all will feel right with the world again.

Meanwhile, you just keep worrring about your leadership….LOL…this is the best y’all can do? LOL

 

[-lowcountrydawg]

Mexico already has 15,000 National Guard members along its northern border with us. So, will this new agreement take the total number to 25K?

90% of fentanyl seizures occur at U.S. ports of entry—not from people crossing the border illegally.

The vast majority is smuggled in by Americans, concealed in vehicles, and often evading detection by U.S. Border Patrol. U.S. citizens have comprised 86% of fentanyl trafficking convictions.

As such, I remain unclear on exactly what we are getting here. Regardless, I'll be relieved if we successfully navigate this episode without spiking inflation and tanking our economy.

By definition any positive outcome from the threat of tariffs means it was a good idea. Even if it is a small win. Bottom line is that the US has a ton of leverage over the rest of the world. Using that leverage doesn’t make him globally popular, but it helps Americans. If Trump’s goal was to win the news cycle every single day it wouldn’t have happened.

Biden and Obama were motivated by global popularity, headlines, and placating their base (progressives, Hollywood, etc). That motivation ran counter to interests of most Americans. Enjoy the ride.

 

[willdup]

Well, it appears we can see what half of the win looks like. I get it, Trump is easy to dislike but like anything and everyone else, it's best to withhold judgement until results start rolling in.

I'm not dismissing this as a potential win. But I still have questions.

Biden secured a commitment from MX for 10k troops on the border early in his term. Does this new agreement represent an incremental increase in MX troops on the border or not?

Given the statistics I shared above, I'm not sure more troops will have a huge impact on fentanyl traffic, but it certainly won't hurt anything.

I am very happy to see that the agreement includes a commitment from Trump to stem the flow of guns from the US to MX, given the vast majority of guns used in crimes in MX originate in the US. Seems a win for MX given that MX has been asking the US for this for years.

I guess when you aren't clear regarding what you are demanding, any movement can be claimed as a win. Given how our markets tanked this morning and what on the surface is not a revolutionary change in our relationship, it seems reasonable to ask who exactly blinked here.

 

[-lowcountrydawg]

I'm not dismissing this as a potential win. But I still have questions.

Biden secured a commitment from MX for 10k troops on the border early in his term. Does this new agreement represent an incremental increase in MX troops on the border or not?

Given the statistics I shared above, I'm not sure more troops will have a huge impact on fentanyl traffic, but it certainly won't hurt anything.

I am very happy to see that the agreement includes a commitment from Trump to stem the flow of guns from the US to MX, given the vast majority of guns used in crimes in MX originate in the US. Seems a win for MX given that MX has been asking the US for this for years.

I guess when you aren't clear regarding what you are demanding, any movement can be claimed as a win. Given how our markets tanked this morning and what on the surface is not a revolutionary change in our relationship, it seems reasonable to ask who exactly blinked here.

Given the enormous mismatch in leverage that the US has with pretty much every Country in the World....especially Mexico, given Trump's reputation, and given the clear un-willigness for the Biden admin to use that leverage fully across the globe for fear of becoming un-popular, leading to in-place policies that don't fully appreciate our leverage......it is more than a fair assumption that Mexico is the one who blinked. Markets reacted as they always do to uncertainty. I think smart participants knew where this was headed, but markets hate uncertain outcomes even more than bad outcomes.

Does it mean a huge game changing win for the US? Probably not, although I am quite sure Trump will sell it as that. But a win nonetheless.

 

[DTwnDawg]

DEMS..the party of hypocrites both on the vent and in Washington…lol

Dems claim Trump tariff could 'drive up' costs despite deflecting blame from Biden's inflation

Democratic lawmakers criticizing President Donald Trump's tariff on Canada, Mexico and China after supporting several tax hikes under the Biden administration.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Dirty Hairy Dawg]

I'm not dismissing this as a potential win. But I still have questions.

Biden secured a commitment from MX for 10k troops on the border early in his term. Does this new agreement represent an incremental increase in MX troops on the border or not?

Given the statistics I shared above, I'm not sure more troops will have a huge impact on fentanyl traffic, but it certainly won't hurt anything.

I am very happy to see that the agreement includes a commitment from Trump to stem the flow of guns from the US to MX, given the vast majority of guns used in crimes in MX originate in the US. Seems a win for MX given that MX has been asking the US for this for years.

I guess when you aren't clear regarding what you are demanding, any movement can be claimed as a win. Given how our markets tanked this morning and what on the surface is not a revolutionary change in our relationship, it seems reasonable to ask who exactly blinked here.

Not endorsing the entire document but it's not a real mystery what Trump is pursuing. And yes, assistance from Mexico in combating illegal immigration and drug trafficking for assisting them with guns being imported seems like a win/win to some degree.

Trump's Stated Priorities

 

[boomer79]

We need to work on the demand side of drugs. That’s ultimately the only way to improve things. Smugglers will always find new ways if the demand is there.

Ultimately we need to help people treat their addictions and look at the reasons people turn to drugs. It’s more a public health and social problem than a law enforcement one if we want to actually make headway.

 

[atlanta cock#]

We need to work on the demand side of drugs. That’s ultimately the only way to improve things. Smugglers will always find new ways if the demand is there.

Ultimately we need to help people treat their addictions and look at the reasons people turn to drugs. It’s more a public health and social problem than a law enforcement one if we want to actually make headway.

The problem is we did such a crappy job a century ago with asylums that we went too far in the other direction. But make no mistake. A ton of crime is committed by sick ppl who shouldn't be in the street.

 

[willdup]

Given the enormous mismatch in leverage that the US has with pretty much every Country in the World....especially Mexico, given Trump's reputation, and given the clear un-willigness for the Biden admin to use that leverage fully across the globe for fear of becoming un-popular, leading to in-place policies that don't fully appreciate our leverage......it is more than a fair assumption that Mexico is the one who blinked. Markets reacted as they always do to uncertainty. I think smart participants knew where this was headed, but markets hate uncertain outcomes even more than bad outcomes.

Does it mean a huge game changing win for the US? Probably not, although I am quite sure Trump will sell it as that. But a win nonetheless.

That's a lot of speculation, hypotheses and zero analysis of what was actually agreed to. The US has a lot of leverage, but the mutually assured destruction of a trade war still results in both sides losing.

Trump's approval ratings (I see you, @zingerdawg) are already historically low for a president in his first month and the polling on the tariffs was highly negative. Lowcountry, as you correctly pointed out before the election, economic pain trumps (pun intended) all other factors for the electorate and these tariffs guaranteed lots of pain. You can say Trump holds all of the cards, but galvanizing the opposition via a destructive trade war would absolutely be an impediment to the radical remaking of government he plans to execute.

Regarding today's development, I see a promise of the exact number of troops on the border that Biden received without the threats and chaos, and a promise by Trump to slow the flow of guns south from the US. Perhaps we will learn more, but so far, I'm not seeing a big win here. In fact, given Trump has been unclear what he wants out of these threats, I still don't know what a win would even look like.

EDIT: This is some f-ed up nonsense he is spewing. Literally nonsensical rambling about pressuring a sovereign ally to become a state. And Trump was the one who made the deal he is mocking!

Come on, you have to admit that, even for Trump, this is some unhinged crap.

 

[atlanta cock#]

That's a lot of speculation, hypotheses and zero analysis of what was actually agreed to. The US has a lot of leverage, but the mutually assured destruction of a trade war still results in both sides losing.

Trump's approval ratings (I see you, @zingerdawg) are already historically low for a president in his first month and the polling on the tariffs was highly negative. Lowcountry, as you correctly pointed out before the election, economic pain trumps (pun intended) all other factors for the electorate and these tariffs guaranteed lots of pain. You can say Trump holds all of the cards, but galvanizing the opposition via a destructive trade war would absolutely be an impediment to the radical remaking of government he plans to execute.

Regarding today's development, I see a promise of the exact number of troops on the border that Biden received without the threats and chaos, and a promise by Trump to slow the flow of guns south from the US. Perhaps we will learn more, but so far, I'm not seeing a big win here. In fact, given Trump has been unclear what he wants out of these threats, I still don't know what a win would even look like.

EDIT: This is some f-ed up nonsense he is spewing. Literally nonsensical rambling about pressuring a sovereign ally to become a state. And Trump was the one who made the deal he is mocking!

Come on, you have to admit that, even for Trump, this is some unhinged crap.

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Trump is better than Biden and Obama combined by a long shot.

 

[Booneville Dawg]

Trump is better than Biden and Obama combined by a long shot.

Trumps rating as of today is 47% approval and starting up today.
Some of these bogus polls and other false reports is probably part of the reason for the massive layoffs coming at CNN and MSNBC since both companies have lost one half of their net worth in the last 2 years.

 

[zingerdawg]

That's a lot of speculation, hypotheses and zero analysis of what was actually agreed to. The US has a lot of leverage, but the mutually assured destruction of a trade war still results in both sides losing.

Trump's approval ratings (I see you, @zingerdawg) are already historically low for a president in his first month and the polling on the tariffs was highly negative. Lowcountry, as you correctly pointed out before the election, economic pain trumps (pun intended) all other factors for the electorate and these tariffs guaranteed lots of pain. You can say Trump holds all of the cards, but galvanizing the opposition via a destructive trade war would absolutely be an impediment to the radical remaking of government he plans to execute.

Regarding today's development, I see a promise of the exact number of troops on the border that Biden received without the threats and chaos, and a promise by Trump to slow the flow of guns south from the US. Perhaps we will learn more, but so far, I'm not seeing a big win here. In fact, given Trump has been unclear what he wants out of these threats, I still don't know what a win would even look like.

EDIT: This is some f-ed up nonsense he is spewing. Literally nonsensical rambling about pressuring a sovereign ally to become a state. And Trump was the one who made the deal he is mocking!

Come on, you have to admit that, even for Trump, this is some unhinged crap.

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The polling depends on who you ask my friend. Let’s check it again after Mexico falls in line. With Canada to follow. I am glad you posted that video. Isn’t it great to have a president answer some questions and explain his actions will. Damn, I had forgotten what that feels like. Right?

Trudeau is down around 20 percent. And their currency isn’t worth shit right now. They are f’ed without our help.

There will be a conservative in place in Canada soon enough. This likely won’t last too long either. If it does, it will hurt both Mexico and Canada a helluva lot worse than us. Only makes their negotiating position weaker. This is strictly a negotiation right now

 

[willdup]

Trump is better than Biden and Obama combined by a long shot.

lier presidents, I'll use the earliest available polling data:

1. Harry S. Truman (1945): First scientific poll showed 87% approval after taking office following FDR's death
2. Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953): 79% approval rating when first measured
3. John F. Kennedy (1961): 72% initial approval rating
4. Lyndon B. Johnson (1963): 79% approval after ascending to presidency following Kennedy's assassination
5. Richard Nixon (1969): 59% initial approval rating
6. Gerald Ford (1974): 71% approval when he first took office after Nixon's resignation
7. Jimmy Carter (1977): 75% initial approval rating
8. Ronald Reagan (1981): 51% first approval rating
9. George H.W. Bush (1989): 64% initial approval
10. Bill Clinton (1993): 58% first approval rating
11. George W. Bush (2001): 57% initial approval before 9/11
12. Barack Obama (2009): 70% initial approval rating
13. Donald Trump (2017): 45% initial approval rating
14. Joe Biden (2021): 56% initial approval rating

and 47% for trump today.

 

[Booneville Dawg]

lier presidents, I'll use the earliest available polling data:

1. Harry S. Truman (1945): First scientific poll showed 87% approval after taking office following FDR's death
2. Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953): 79% approval rating when first measured
3. John F. Kennedy (1961): 72% initial approval rating
4. Lyndon B. Johnson (1963): 79% approval after ascending to presidency following Kennedy's assassination
5. Richard Nixon (1969): 59% initial approval rating
6. Gerald Ford (1974): 71% approval when he first took office after Nixon's resignation
7. Jimmy Carter (1977): 75% initial approval rating
8. Ronald Reagan (1981): 51% first approval rating
9. George H.W. Bush (1989): 64% initial approval
10. Bill Clinton (1993): 58% first approval rating
11. George W. Bush (2001): 57% initial approval before 9/11
12. Barack Obama (2009): 70% initial approval rating
13. Donald Trump (2017): 45% initial approval rating
14. Joe Biden (2021): 56% initial approval rating

and 47% for trump today.

LOL well the 56% for Biden and 70% for obama doesn't say much for the merits of that poll

 

[willdup]

The polling depends on who you ask my friend. Let’s check it again after Mexico falls in line. With Canada to follow. I am glad you posted that video. Isn’t it great to have a president answer some questions and explain his actions will. Damn, I had forgotten what that feels like. Right?

Trudeau is down around 20 percent. And their currency isn’t worth shit right now. They are f’ed without our help.

There will be a conservative in place in Canada soon enough. This likely won’t last too long either. If it does, it will hurt both Mexico and Canada a helluva lot worse than us. Only makes their negotiating position weaker. This is strictly a negotiation right now

Right, talking about forcing a sovereign nation to become a state is totally commendable and normal. Speaking of polling, what do you think the polling in Canada is for that idea? And you say this is a great development?

That's even more unhinged than whatever Trump is going on about.

 

[zingerdawg]

Right, talking about forcing a sovereign nation to become a state is totally commendable and normal. Speaking of polling, what do you think the polling in Canada is for that idea? And you say this is a great development?

That's even more unhinged than whatever Trump is going on about.

It is a tactic. I am sure it pisses their citizens off. I told you we need someone to play the villian to get a deal done that is better for Americans. This is what he is doing. You guys can have someone play good cop 16 years from now when you get back in office. This needs to happen. Mexico caved in a day.

This is exactly what I told you would happen. The one thing this guy is really good at is negotiating. Sit back snd let it play out. In the meantime, you can criticize him for being unhinged or whatever. He isn’t unhinged at all. He is applying pressure just like he should. Quite sure him saying the same thing about Greenland will lead to something not previously allowed as well.

I am positive he doesn’t care what his approval rating is in Canada. Like I said, 16 years from now when you guys get back in, you can be on the receiving end again.

 

[Booneville Dawg]

Mexico already has 15,000 National Guard members along its northern border with us. So, will this new agreement take the total number to 25K?

90% of fentanyl seizures occur at U.S. ports of entry—not from people crossing the border illegally.

The vast majority is smuggled in by Americans, concealed in vehicles, and often evading detection by U.S. Border Patrol. U.S. citizens have comprised 86% of fentanyl trafficking convictions.

As such, I remain unclear on exactly what we are getting here. Regardless, I'll be relieved if we successfully navigate this episode without spiking inflation and tanking our economy.

For several years the cartel has been placing snipers on the U.S. side of the border to protect some of their main access routes for bringing in cocaine and fentanyl. U.S. special forces has been training LE personnel in Ca, NM, and AZ on how to identify these dangerous situations. Now with the cartel being classified as a terrorist organization I hope a shoot to kill on sight order is given when they are identified rather than trying to make arrests of pukes that are more heavily armed than most SWAT teams.

 

[Zonadog]

I suspect this will cause inflation although it did not in his first term.

And even if it’s a bluff, Trump already signed his own pact with Canada and Mexicon in 2018, which he’s reneging on. So do you think foreign nations are going to trust his word moving forward?

Mexico could be a legit country but they are soooo corrupt. I don’t know how you get rid of their corruption.

I’m also curious. What happened to the wall he was going to build? Why no talk of that now? I’m still waiting.

If you are waiting, you are left behind.

San Diego border wall construction resumed last week.

In Texas, construction is underway at 11 locations in Cameron, Starr, Zapata, Webb, Maverick, and Val Verde Counties. They had to get property easements to bring in construction equipment in some areas. The state of Texas actually started work on the wall at the end of November.

President Trump started on day 1 (actually talking to buyers before then) to repurchase materials that the Biden administration tried to sell off at 5 cents on the dollar.

I know it may come as a shock to some, but you can't order tons and tons of steel to be fabricated into sections of wall and have it delivered Tuesday.

 

[Georgia Jim]

The polling depends on who you ask my friend. Let’s check it again after Mexico falls in line. With Canada to follow. I am glad you posted that video. Isn’t it great to have a president answer some questions and explain his actions will. Damn, I had forgotten what that feels like. Right?

Trudeau is down around 20 percent. And their currency isn’t worth shit right now. They are f’ed without our help.

There will be a conservative in place in Canada soon enough. This likely won’t last too long either. If it does, it will hurt both Mexico and Canada a helluva lot worse than us. Only makes their negotiating position weaker. This is strictly a negotiation right now

Just in... Trudeau says pending US tariffs are being delayed at least 30 days...

 

[willdup]

Just in... Trudeau says pending US tariffs are being delayed at least 30 days...

Yes, Canada agreed to continue doing everything they were already doing, plus name a Fentanyl Czar! Trump wins again...

BTW, Canada accounted for .2% (or a total of 43lbs) of total seizures in the US last year. Canadian Fentanyl Czar sounds like a cushy job.

How Trump’s tariff turbulence will cause economic pain — The Economist

Mexico and Canada win a reprieve, but firms remain rattled

apple.news

 

[Booneville Dawg]

Yes, Canada agreed to continue doing everything they were already doing, plus name a Fentanyl Czar! Trump wins again...

BTW, Canada accounted for .2% (or a total of 43lbs) of total seizures in the US last year. Canadian Fentanyl Czar sounds like a cushy job.

How Trump’s tariff turbulence will cause economic pain — The Economist

Mexico and Canada win a reprieve, but firms remain rattled

apple.news

The problem with fentynal is not the seizures at the border, but what is making it into the states.

 

[-lowcountrydawg]

Yes, Canada agreed to continue doing everything they were already doing, plus name a Fentanyl Czar! Trump wins again...

BTW, Canada accounted for .2% (or a total of 43lbs) of total seizures in the US last year. Canadian Fentanyl Czar sounds like a cushy job.

How Trump’s tariff turbulence will cause economic pain — The Economist

Mexico and Canada win a reprieve, but firms remain rattled

apple.news

Because we all know you would admit the tariff threats have some logic and worked out well if that was the case. This morning it was all about how we need to buckle up for massive price inflation.

 

[Georgia Jim]

Yes, Canada agreed to continue doing everything they were already doing, plus name a Fentanyl Czar! Trump wins again...

BTW, Canada accounted for .2% (or a total of 43lbs) of total seizures in the US last year. Canadian Fentanyl Czar sounds like a cushy job.

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Yes, Canada agreed to continue doing everything they were already doing, plus name a Fentanyl Czar! Trump wins again...

BTW, Canada accounted for .2% (or a total of 43lbs) of total seizures in the US last year. Canadian Fentanyl Czar sounds like a cushy job.

How Trump’s tariff turbulence will cause economic pain — The Economist

Mexico and Canada win a reprieve, but firms remain rattled

apple.news

Let's hope their Fentanyl Czar does more than our Border Czar did the last 4 years....absolutely nothing...

 

[willdup]

Because we all know you would admit the tariff threats have some logic and worked out well if that was the case. This morning it was all about how we need to buckle up for massive price inflation.

Thats funny, as that’s more speculation about what I would or wouldn’t say. What did this chaos accomplish? Will you acknowledge that the repeated references to forcing Canada to join the US does nothing but to sow distrust amongst our allies and makes Trump and our country look stupid?

MX committed a number of troops that are already on the border and Canada promised to keep doing what it was already doing and appoint a “Czar”. So what was the point?

 

[LRA Dawg]

Thats funny, as that’s more speculation about what I would or wouldn’t say. What did this chaos accomplish? Will you acknowledge that the repeated references to forcing Canada to join the US does nothing but to sow distrust amongst our allies and makes Trump and our country look stupid?

MX committed a number of troops that are already on the border and Canada promised to keep doing what it was already doing and appoint a “Czar”. So what was the point?

The point was to create some hype around a so called "WIN". During all the celebrations for this monumental accomplishment, his supporters wither failed to notice or care that their 401k accounts dropped 1-2% since the tariff talk started Friday morning.

 

[atlanta cock#]

Trumps rating as of today is 47% approval and starting up today.
Some of these bogus polls and other false reports is probably part of the reason for the massive layoffs coming at CNN and MSNBC since both companies have lost one half of their net worth in the last 2 years.

I thought I saw a poll last week where it was north of 50%?

 

[zingerdawg]

Let's hope their Fentanyl Czar does more than our Border Czar did the last 4 years....absolutely nothing...

The last border czar couldn’t hit water if she fell out of a boat.

It is funny. The lefties on the board are worried about trump making the country look stupid. I haven’t laughed that hard in a while. Biden and Kamala were the laughingstock of the world. Biden’s gaffes made tv news shows all over the place. Biden couldnt find Canada and Kamala can’t spell it without a teleprompter. Mexico is still waiting to be unburdened by what has been

 

[zingerdawg]

The point was to create some hype around a so called "WIN". During all the celebrations for this monumental accomplishment, his supporters wither failed to notice or care that their 401k accounts dropped 1-2% since the tariff talk started Friday morning.

Let’s be fair and balanced here. You are a supposed pub right. We closed 650 points under the all time high for the stock market today. Up 10 percent since 11-6 and 14 over the last six months. The market rebounded today after the Mexican tariff’s pause was reported.

Dow rebounds from steep decline to finish with 100-point loss after Trump pauses tariffs on Mexico — CNBC

The Dow Jones Industrial Average on Monday staged a major comeback, recovering steep losses from earlier in the day.

stocks.apple.com

edit: now that Canada caved. What do you think the market may look like tomorrow. Hold on to your butts.

 

[LRA Dawg]

Let’s be fair and balanced here. You are a supposed pub right. We closed 650 points under the all time high for the stock market today. Up 10 percent since 11-6 and 14 over the last six months. The market rebounded today after the Mexican tariff’s pause was reported.

Dow rebounds from steep decline to finish with 100-point loss after Trump pauses tariffs on Mexico — CNBC

The Dow Jones Industrial Average on Monday staged a major comeback, recovering steep losses from earlier in the day.

stocks.apple.com

edit: now that Canada caved. What do you think the market may look like tomorrow. Hold on

Let’s be fair and balanced here. You are a supposed pub right. We closed 650 points under the all time high for the stock market today. Up 10 percent since 11-6 and 14 over the last six months. The market rebounded today after the Mexican tariff’s pause was reported.

Dow rebounds from steep decline to finish with 100-point loss after Trump pauses tariffs on Mexico — CNBC

The Dow Jones Industrial Average on Monday staged a major comeback, recovering steep losses from earlier in the day.

stocks.apple.com

edit: now that Canada caved. What do you think the market may look like tomorrow. Hold on to your butts.

To say Canada caved is really a joke. In truth, this is going to take a while to determine if it was a good move or not, at least 30 days down the road.

Trump did accomplish one thing bigly, the media is not focused on his three controversial nominees this week. In the middle of last week, RFK did not now the difference between medicaid and medicare, among other things. That is old news now and his boy is more likely to get confirmed and accepted by people by dodging critics. He is playing the media game just as much as the trade game.

 

[Papapete11]

Thats funny, as that’s more speculation about what I would or wouldn’t say. What did this chaos accomplish? Will you acknowledge that the repeated references to forcing Canada to join the US does nothing but to sow distrust amongst our allies and makes Trump and our country look stupid?

MX committed a number of troops that are already on the border and Canada promised to keep doing what it was already doing and appoint a “Czar”. So what was the point?

You do realize how comical you look, right? Or you just so depressed and over come with TDS that you can't stop.

Please remember.... Your clown show act was called out be the American people. Sit back, be quiet and watch us work.

 

[zingerdawg]

To say Canada caved is really a joke. In truth, this is going to take a while to determine if it was a good move or not. it will be at least 30 days down the road.

Trump did accomplish one thing bigly, the media is not focused on his three controversial nominees this week. In the middle of last week, RFK did not now the difference between medicaid and medicare, among other things. That is old news now and his boy is more likely to get confirmed and accepted by people. He is playing the media game just as much as the trade game.

If you look at how scrutinized trump’s picks have been, it is unprecedented. Just like everything with him. Biden had a bunch of dumbasses in his cabinet. Didn’t get near the pushback. I don’t care for rfk. But tulsi and hegseth will do just fine. As will kash. It is all a dog and pony show from both sides. He should get who he wants. Outside of severe cases like gaetz.

We will find out about Canada over the next thirty days. He is sending people to rework the trade deals. Up to them if the tariffs stay paused. So all that complaining and whining the last two days on the board about the tariffs turned out to be completely unwarranted and unnecessary. Let the guy try to do his job. You can at least agree there. We are negotiating from a place of strength. At some point we have to draw a line in the sand with our allies too.

Call what Canada did whatever you want. The headlines all read caved. So I used that word. The one below uses folds and caves.

Canada folds to Trump's demands and strikes $1.3 billion border deal

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Monday that he had agreed to string of Donald Trump 's border demands and won a 30-day reprieve from a raft of hefty tariffs.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[LRA Dawg]

If you look at how scrutinized trump’s picks have been, it is unprecedented. Just like everything with him. Biden had a bunch of dumbasses in his cabinet. Didn’t get near the pushback. I don’t care for rfk. But tulsi and hegseth will do just fine. As will kash. It is all a dog and pony show from both sides. He should get who he wants. Outside of severe cases like gaetz.

We will find out about Canada over the next thirty days. He is sending people to rework the trade deals. Up to them if the tariffs stay paused. So all that complaining and whining the last two days on the board about the tariffs turned out to be completely unwarranted and unnecessary. Let the guy try to do his job. You can at least agree there. We are negotiating from a place of strength. At some point we have to draw a line in the sand with our allies too.

Call what Canada did whatever you want. The headlines all read caved. So I used that word. The one below uses folds and caves.

Canada folds to Trump's demands and strikes $1.3 billion border deal

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Monday that he had agreed to string of Donald Trump 's border demands and won a 30-day reprieve from a raft of hefty tariffs.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[LRA Dawg]

If you look at how scrutinized trump’s picks have been, it is unprecedented. Just like everything with him. Biden had a bunch of dumbasses in his cabinet. Didn’t get near the pushback. I don’t care for rfk. But tulsi and hegseth will do just fine. As will kash. It is all a dog and pony show from both sides. He should get who he wants. Outside of severe cases like gaetz.

We will find out about Canada over the next thirty days. He is sending people to rework the trade deals. Up to them if the tariffs stay paused. So all that complaining and whining the last two days on the board about the tariffs turned out to be completely unwarranted and unnecessary. Let the guy try to do his job. You can at least agree there. We are negotiating from a place of strength. At some point we have to draw a line in the sand with our allies too.

Call what Canada did whatever you want. The headlines all read caved. So I used that word. The one below uses folds and caves.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...da-donald-trump-tariffs-border-trudeau.html[/

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