OriginalGatorHator said:

Thank you for illustrating the callousness Christians have regarding this issue. Capitalism and corporate America has warped minds.

Exodus 22:25; Leviticus 25:35-38; Deuteronomy 23-19-29; Psalms 15:5 Jeremiah 15:10 all prohibit the charging of interest on loans given to the needy.

Is there a poorer demographic than 18-21 year olds?

I’m glad you brought up Solomon as he has this to add “he that by usury and unjust gain increase his substance, he shall gather it for him that will pity the poor”. Proverbs 28:8.

I note that jubilee also occurred under King Solomon.

There are dozens of places in the Bible were God forbids usury. It is a capital offense.

This is what is being done to hundreds thousands of 18 year old young men. Who are trapped in a debt cycle increasingly fewer can ever escape from.



Everyone who borrowed that money was promised by their country it was the route to the American Dream. This is not a case of a 40 year old man taking out a mortgage on a house he can’t afford, these are kids borrowing 6 figures based on the societal promise it would lead to employment where they could pay it back and live in comfort.




“Forgive us our debts, as we give our debtors”


Debts being paid is how debt is forgiven. Christ had to pay our debt with blood. Is my debt not forgiven because it was paid by someone else? Of course not.

And everything the government does is paid for by the rest of society so I’m not sure what your point is here? If we don’t want to use the government to the benefit of the citizenry than let’s first eliminate social security and Medicare.

There is a pretty simple solution to this issue: seize endowments, pay off the debt, get the federal government out of the student loan business.

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OriginalGatorHator said:

Sure, this is a point of disagreement between me and my fellow right wingers on this board. I’ll try to summarize as briefly as I can. *ended up not being that brief*


Our entire educational system/ societal structure (whatever you call it) teaches young people from the time they are 3 to the time they are 18 that if they want a slice of the American dream they must go to college. Going to college is expensive and saddles people with at minimum thousands of dollars of non dischargable debt but America tells its youth not to worry about that because of the promise of the American dream.

But due to a number of reasons, that is rarely true in 2025. Graduating from college no longer secures fulfilling employment which allows young people to purchase a home and start a family (there are exceptions obviously I’m just talking about the general rule). Instead they will be working for a soulless corporate entity, making the same wage their father did 30 years ago when rent, gas, groceries etc has all risen by 300%.

It’s fraud and it’s usurious and if we as a society don’t want millions and millions of young people saddled with debt they will never pay off something has to be done.

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