But now, you don't. I get it brutha. I just don't think it helps your argument you're trying to make. It's obvious this is about being upset that the race just got tougher.
Biden just stepped aside
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Well I didn’t VOTE for the man. As a democracy if you want to VOTE for a senile old man that’s your prerogative, after all he was VOTED in as the nominee
Right. And he's not running now. So the ones who voted for him should've convinced him to stay in and run.
No. Reports are Pelosi threatened to go public with internal polls. Yes they had the right to threaten/pressure Biden. And I don’t care. Like you said, voters can decide if they are cool with liberal elites running the Democratic Party.
No…… you should’ve put someone competent in his place when you had the chance to VOTE on it.
I get it if the man had a massive stroke or some kind of life altering illness. But the man that stepped down yesterday is the man you voted for in the primaries. Just let that roll around a bit
So are you suggesting that the Dems have the market cornered on wealthy elites having too much influence?
Many Democrats who voted for him in the primaries don't want him running.
I'm not a Democrat, just a proud common sense DTS sufferer. If Biden couldn't win, he needed to go for the good of the country.
I don't vote because I'm not a registered Democrat. But in any case, the idea that things can't change between primaries and the actual nomination is silly. Biden and his team said he was fine. They set up the rules for the debate and he failed. The polls have moved, but not so much that Trumpsters should feel completely comfortable. So if you are afraid he's not cognitive enough to be POTUS, you should be happy. Especially if you've been saying it for three years now. That only gets worse...
But alas you're not.
You know why?
I do.
We are way past this on both sides, wouldnt you agree? Your hypocrisy is astounding sometimes.
I would be worried about his competence if I thought for a second he was running anything. I’m not sure where I ever indicated I was afraid of his incompetence, just that he was.
And yes things can change between the primaries and the nomination but in this case they haven’t. You’re reaching pretty hard
I'm not reaching at all. You said you wanted him to not run and now you're complaining that he isn't. Again, this should be what you want.
Record production in oil and gas is not because of his policies. It would be much higher and we would have cheaper gas had he not attacked fossil fuels since day one of his term.
This was nothing short of a coup. Believing that it was anything other than that is naive and ignorant. He didn’t want out of the race. His campaign said on Saturday he wasn’t going anywhere. Went on every station to say he is running. The leaders of his party have been threatening him for a month now. They finally hit the right button this weekend. The squeezed the right pressure point. He didn’t even sign his own announcement. He hasn’t said a word yet to anyone. There is nothing democratic about this. It is dirty politics at its finest.
It is rich the gop made the mistake for the early debate. Not the left for electing a president who is a vege and propping him up for four years. Are we still pretending that didn’t happen. You guys were so quick to see how f’ed he was. I am not surprised you can’t see how bad a moment this is in American history.
It didn’t bother you that he was a vege till he couldn’t win. So subvert democracy, call an assassination a photo op, then next will be to find a way around state’s laws that require death to be removed from a ballot.
You do also realize that the left said if anyone tries to run against Kamala it would be political suicide. Does that sound like democracy to you? They would destroy anyone who tried to do so. You better get in line. Them dems are dangerous. They are only like the mob. lol. Please explain how forcing someone to drop out of the race, then forcing everyone to back the person to replace said candidate already put forth by the primary isnt what you love to hammer Trump about.
You are going to have to change your response. Defending democracy no longer works.
zinger, you know that if Democrats are a disaster, its ok! There is nothing wrong at all with overthrowing a sitting POTUS just to keep the globalist agenda running. This is an absolute embarrassment and the World is laughing at the Dems yet again, but hey lets focus on Jan 6th and forget that Trump was just nearly killed and the Secret Service almost let is happen because of ineptitude.
Dems, you guys can twist this any way you want , this is a shit show and embarrassing. Never mind the fact that youre endorsing the mental midget Kamala Harris to be POTUS, as far as most stable folks are concerned shes not qualified to run an HOA .
I disagree with the "subverting democracy" talking point of the Republicans and wish they would stop. They had to replace Joe.
My issue is with the Democrats LYING to the American people about Biden's condition for the past couple of years. The gaslighting. Denials. Absolute assurances that he's sharp as a tack.
Biden was nominated based on a lie. People were told he is FINE. The videos of him wandering off, and getting lost were "cheap fakes" etc.
So it's a strain to say replacing Joe subverts the will of the people. I'd say deceiving them about his condition, for years, is the real issue.
My issue is with the Democrats LYING to the American people about Biden's condition for the past couple of years. The gaslighting. Denials. Absolute assurances that he's sharp as a tack.
Biden was nominated based on a lie. People were told he is FINE. The videos of him wandering off, and getting lost were "cheap fakes" etc.
So it's a strain to say replacing Joe subverts the will of the people. I'd say deceiving them about his condition, for years, is the real issue.
Couldnt have said it better myself. The Dems will literally do ANYTHING to keep power, and then piss on your leg and tell you its raining.
shocking 2 party system and each party wants to win to keep power.......dont act like one is better or different from the other....
Good point. However some of the blame has to be on the incompetence of the people who actually believed this when it was painfully obvious that he has been incompetent.
I dont have to act lie it Ive seen it for the last 7 years. Thanks for sharing.
Can agree with some of that, except one is better at inflation/economy & security than the other.
I mean, what is more important than safety & prosperity??
Can live with the other shat.
Yes. And many Republicans were told if they went against Trump it was also political suicide. Defending democracy no longer works. Mike Pence knows all about it.
I agree in that I don't think "subverting democracy" should be a linchpin of the campaign but when you consider:
The dems took action to ensure Bernie wouldn't win their primary and Joe was going to prevail in 2020.
Even though everyone has known Biden was infirm as far back as 2020, they ran what amounted to a closed primary in 24 to ensure a POTUS that would lose his train of thought and wander around aimlessly at official events was unopposed for all intents and purposes.
Then consider all of the undemocratic actions taken from day one of the 16 Trump campaign to subvert the will of the people, I do believe subverting democracy has a place in the Trump campaign strategy. Joe didn't just end up as the winner of the primary in 2024 and WHY he won and had to be replaced is an issue to some degree. Nothing stopped the Dems from allowing Newsome, Whitmer, Shapiro, Moore, Booker or anyone else from running for the nomination if the Dems would have simply done in Sept of 23 what they did in July of 24 other than likely having to invoke the 25th.
bruh they both spend our $$$ its how u want it spent........Id rather "wall" money spent on how to process them and get people papers so again they can pay school taxes and into SS....the bad news some services will cost more when the cheap labor is gone.....
If they didn't remove him, you would also wonder why. I mean, at this point does it really matter? We know. There is no answer for these guys that passes the MAGA test. We got it. Let's move on.
i agree w this they didnt truely let people run for the office the $$$ and support went to Joe since he beat DJT last time but since the Dems cheat Kamala will win in a landslide
Right now, not exactly the tears I'm seeing. After the debate, could've done that.Are u going to have a post with the Dem crying?
They all do…. been doing it since before time, it will probably never change. Aware of how the spending/deficit works.
Just rather keep my head above water while they are doing it.
Not opposed to immigration, just gotta be vetted and legal.
I know why they removed him and the reasons for pushing him aside in July 23 and allowing an open primary are as compelling as removing him today. It has nothing to do with MAGA and everything to do with the Dems running a sham primary to protect a candidate they knew was not capable of executing the office of POTUS.
The Dems. The Dems. Decades now. Those evil, evil, Dems. Those Satanic beings keep pushing up this hateful rhetoric. Dadgum Dems!!!!!
I'm not sure Kamala is going to attract any more voters than Biden whether there is cheating or not. My issue is this looks like it's going to be another race where disqualifying the opponent is going to be more prominent than voting for the candidate that does the best job selling their agenda. The fact that our elections have devolved into mudslinging contests and we are now governed by unelected bureaucrats as much as by our local, state and federal elected officials is the real threat to a democracy or representative republic.
That is a cop out. They at first tried to support him thru it. Then he continued to screw up. Calling Zelenskyy president Putin and Kamala vp Trump.
They served this up to him. I promise you they wrote the letter and put his signature on it. I guarantee he may have agreed but it was kicking and screaming. He said it himself he wasn’t going to say anything until after Netanyahu was in on Wednesday. They gutted any influence he may have there. This is subverting democracy no matter how you look at it. I don’t blame you for not wanting to see it or agree to it. It blows up everything you have had against Trump for four years. Ironically, this is usually what an actual insurrection that has a chance to work looks like.
J6. J6. J6...He's America's Hitler. That evil, evil Trump is going to execute journos...
Nope. Two different narratives of beliefs that start from such a fundamentally different place of what is actually true, there is no real reason to talk about....well....anything really. I'm sure if the Democrats preferred pulp in their orange juice, some of you would go to drinking no pulp.
You promise??? Well, that settles it.
Mayorkas did what he does again. This administration has never fired a soul. And they hire to fill quotas and it shows with job performance. This is what that looks like at the highest level. It is sad to say but true. It doesn’t work.
The fact that they threatened anyone who would try to run against kamala to me is amazing. Those guys know who to circle the wagons. It actually may have been fun to see an open convention. That would have been a sight.
