From the CNN story on Laken Riley murder

[poorpreacher]

"Former President Donald Trump also referenced Ibarra in a social media post Monday as he pushed for his hardline immigration and border policies. In recent rallies, Trump has been arguing there is a new kind of crime called “migrant crime” and has vowed to conduct a large-scale deportation of undocumented migrants in the US should he win the 2024 election. But many researchers have found no such connection between immigration and crime levels, with some finding immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the US."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/26/us/uga-campus-killing-augusta-university-student-tuesday/index.html

Who are the "many researchers" in question here? Where, when and how did they study the connection between immigration and crime?

Shouldn't a professional writer cite a source, before making this type of claim? "Many researchers"....smh

 

[ugaboz]

the left will do anything to deflect how bad their crap is

 

[WyoDawg307]

"Former President Donald Trump also referenced Ibarra in a social media post Monday as he pushed for his hardline immigration and border policies. In recent rallies, Trump has been arguing there is a new kind of crime called “migrant crime” and has vowed to conduct a large-scale deportation of undocumented migrants in the US should he win the 2024 election. But many researchers have found no such connection between immigration and crime levels, with some finding immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the US."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/26/us/uga-campus-killing-augusta-university-student-tuesday/index.html

Who are the "many researchers" in question here? Where, when and how did they study the connection between immigration and crime?

Shouldn't a professional writer cite a source, before making this type of claim? "Many researchers"....smh

Mockingbird media just chirping out the approved narrative. Professional journalists are now independent (Taibi, Greenwald, Tucker). The only ones that are left at CNN et al, are not professionals and don't have any integrity, because their jobs are to amplify the approved message; not to report the news.

"Experts say"
"All scientist agree"
"Unnamed sources say"

Todays media belongs in the fiction section at the library.

 

[stray]

"Former President Donald Trump also referenced Ibarra in a social media post Monday as he pushed for his hardline immigration and border policies. In recent rallies, Trump has been arguing there is a new kind of crime called “migrant crime” and has vowed to conduct a large-scale deportation of undocumented migrants in the US should he win the 2024 election. But many researchers have found no such connection between immigration and crime levels, with some finding immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the US."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/26/us/uga-campus-killing-augusta-university-student-tuesday/index.html

Who are the "many researchers" in question here? Where, when and how did they study the connection between immigration and crime?

Shouldn't a professional writer cite a source, before making this type of claim? "Many researchers"....smh

Just like the Gun Violence Archives. Look and see how many "news" outlets use them to provide their "research". This is an anti-gun propaganda outlet but their name makes them sound legitimate and then the reporters can use them to gaslight the ignorant masses.
The left figured out the the facts don't help them so they just created their own organizations to supply them with the "facts" they need to go with the narrative.
It's absolutely the same game plan used in the USSR, Cuba, WW2 Germany and on and on.

 

[-lowcountrydawg]

"Former President Donald Trump also referenced Ibarra in a social media post Monday as he pushed for his hardline immigration and border policies. In recent rallies, Trump has been arguing there is a new kind of crime called “migrant crime” and has vowed to conduct a large-scale deportation of undocumented migrants in the US should he win the 2024 election. But many researchers have found no such connection between immigration and crime levels, with some finding immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the US."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/26/us/uga-campus-killing-augusta-university-student-tuesday/index.html

Who are the "many researchers" in question here? Where, when and how did they study the connection between immigration and crime?

Shouldn't a professional writer cite a source, before making this type of claim? "Many researchers"....smh

Even if that statistic is legit, it completely misses the point, which is the following:

By definition, an illegal alien shouldn't even be here - so any violent crime committed by an illegal alien by definition could have been prevented with enforcement of border law.

Conversely, a native born or legal immigrant's presence here at all is legal. There is no policy that could have prevented them from committing the crime, save a situation where they were let free after committing other crimes - another topic but highly related to this one - both topics being highly relevant to political stances from different parties in charge.

It is a meaningless stat in this discussion, dishonest in its use to distract from a real issue.

 

[WGrovedawg]

"Former President Donald Trump also referenced Ibarra in a social media post Monday as he pushed for his hardline immigration and border policies. In recent rallies, Trump has been arguing there is a new kind of crime called “migrant crime” and has vowed to conduct a large-scale deportation of undocumented migrants in the US should he win the 2024 election. But many researchers have found no such connection between immigration and crime levels, with some finding immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the US."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/26/us/uga-campus-killing-augusta-university-student-tuesday/index.html

Who are the "many researchers" in question here? Where, when and how did they study the connection between immigration and crime?

Shouldn't a professional writer cite a source, before making this type of claim? "Many researchers"....smh

The referenced article in that story is unbelievable weak to use as a source, it is basically two very left leaning "criminologist" who basically say we don't see a correlation but we don't really know, this is at the very end of the article stating a lot of the sanctuary cities don't record a crime as being associate with an illegal immigrant

"The problem is — and this is definitely like a blue state, red state issue — for a lot of the blue states, we don’t even record immigration status. We don’t really care about that. If you’re committing a crime, we’re going to arrest you. We’re going to put you in jail. If it comes up that you’re not a citizen, and we’re kind of mad at you, then we’re going to maybe turn you over to ICE. But the reality is, a lot of times, we’ll just put you through our system and treat you like every other criminal."


Ask the people in Sweden, 50 percent of the rapes in Sweden were immigrants or foreign born workers after a migrant surge in 2015, Swedish government also hid their stats for years just like this article states we are doing here, trying to downplay the crime of immigrants

 

[poorpreacher]

Even if that statistic is legit, it completely misses the point, which is the following:

By definition, an illegal alien shouldn't even be here - so any violent crime committed by an illegal alien by definition could have been prevented with enforcement of border law.

Conversely, a native born or legal immigrant's presence here at all is legal. There is no policy that could have prevented them from committing the crime, save a situation where they were let free after committing other crimes - another topic but highly related to this one - both topics being highly relevant to political stances from different parties in charge.

It is a meaningless stat in this discussion, dishonest in its use to distract from a real issue.

And another little issue....The media doesn't like inconvenient facts that are contrary to their narratives. So they bury them, and yell "NO EVIDENCE" to their critics.

Like the guy who said getting control of immigration would destroy the economy. You can find lots of articles, etc. that praise the economic contributions of immigrants. But information that offers evidence to the contrary is dismissed, as political propaganda, or better still.....racism/xenophobia, etc.

 

[zingerdawg]

Well. Liberals of the world who love this policy and defend it. The crime rate in Venezuela is at a 20 year low. I wonder why. They are sending all their criminals over here. 🤦‍♂️ bad policy for sure.

 

[Dirty Hairy Dawg]

Well, it's not all together false. It's not really relevant but when you account for all natural born U.S. citizens of all races, the incarceration rate for the Latino residence is roughly half. Now, that number certainly includes Latinos that are U.S. citizens and I haven't been able to find stats for purely illegal immigrants. Having said that, everyone entering the U.S. with the intention of residing here needs to be screened before entry and should be monitored for some period of time to make sure they have good intentions and are assimilating.

 

[stray]

Well, it's not all together false. It's not really relevant but when you account for all natural born U.S. citizens of all races, the incarceration rate for the Latino residence is roughly half. Now, that number certainly includes Latinos that are U.S. citizens and I haven't been able to find stats for purely illegal immigrants. Having said that, everyone entering the U.S. with the intention of residing here needs to be screened before entry and should be monitored for some period of time to make sure they have good intentions and are assimilating.

Well, the numbers can be deceiving for many reasons. Only Texas includes immigration status in it's crime statistics so all other statistics are based on guesses. Illegals commit crime at a higher rate than legal immigrants but lower than natural born citizens. It could be different nationwide, could be more could be less. There is just no way of knowing.
But based on research in AZ on convicted criminals there is a 146% higher crime rate among illegals, but the big thing is what types of crime. The crimes the illegals commit are more likely to be violent when compared to US citizens. Also, in sanctuary cities, they are more likely to downgrade charges to misdemeanors for illegals to avoid having to report them to ICE.

 

[stray]

Well, the numbers can be deceiving for many reasons. Only Texas includes immigration status in it's crime statistics so all other statistics are based on guesses. Illegals commit crime at a higher rate than legal immigrants but lower than natural born citizens. It could be different nationwide, could be more could be less. There is just no way of knowing.
But based on research in AZ on convicted criminals there is a 146% higher crime rate among illegals, but the big thing is what types of crime. The crimes the illegals commit are more likely to be violent when compared to US citizens. Also, in sanctuary cities, they are more likely to downgrade charges to misdemeanors for illegals to avoid having to report them to ICE.

Let's not forget the bottom line is not about percentages. It's the total number of crimes that really matters. If one illegal commits one murder, that is one more than should have ever happened to a US citizen.

If the percentage of people in the country committing murder goes down but twice as many people are getting killed, how is this better? More gas lighting from the MSM and Politicians.

 

[-lowcountrydawg]

Let's not forget the bottom line is not about percentages. It's the total number of crimes that really matters. If one illegal commits one murder, that is one more than should have ever happened to a US citizen.

If the percentage of people in the country committing murder goes down but twice as many people are getting killed, how is this better? More gas lighting from the MSM and Politicians.

That's the point. It isn't about the percentage. It is about the fact that it could have been prevented.

Every crime by someone who shouldn't have been here in the first place is by definition one that should have been prevented. By what? Enforcement. That's why this particular issue is appropriately political.

 

[doerunn]

Need common sense gun I mean immigration enforcement if it can save 1 life its worth it. Did I do that right??

 

[Athens is Heaven]

"Former President Donald Trump also referenced Ibarra in a social media post Monday as he pushed for his hardline immigration and border policies. In recent rallies, Trump has been arguing there is a new kind of crime called “migrant crime” and has vowed to conduct a large-scale deportation of undocumented migrants in the US should he win the 2024 election. But many researchers have found no such connection between immigration and crime levels, with some finding immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the US."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/26/us/uga-campus-killing-augusta-university-student-tuesday/index.html

Who are the "many researchers" in question here? Where, when and how did they study the connection between immigration and crime?

Shouldn't a professional writer cite a source, before making this type of claim? "Many researchers"....smh

They are covering for Biden and the Dems.

 

[ugaboz]

yall see dr. phil put it to the view lol
libs are so weird
he said kids are coming across the border with numbers and addresses on their arms. they are being sent to sex slave homes
one of the dumbasses on the panel said but not all of them lol
wtf

 

[godawgs4]

"Former President Donald Trump also referenced Ibarra in a social media post Monday as he pushed for his hardline immigration and border policies. In recent rallies, Trump has been arguing there is a new kind of crime called “migrant crime” and has vowed to conduct a large-scale deportation of undocumented migrants in the US should he win the 2024 election. But many researchers have found no such connection between immigration and crime levels, with some finding immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the US."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/26/us/uga-campus-killing-augusta-university-student-tuesday/index.html

Who are the "many researchers" in question here? Where, when and how did they study the connection between immigration and crime?

Shouldn't a professional writer cite a source, before making this type of claim? "Many researchers"....smh

The specifics were here, one link beyond the linked story.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/03/us/immigrants-crime-numbers/index.html

In my personal experience which is relatively extensive in the last five years living and working in DFW the VAST MAJORITY of immigrants in the states want NOTHING TO DO with the legal process or government entities. They do everything they can to avoid interaction with the government and that includes being better drivers and residents than most citizens. If they were breaking the law, their odds of apprehension rise and thus deportation.

Yes, the murder and loss of life was terrible, but no worse than say a girl being drunk and street racing resulting in the deaths of two and violent injuries of two others?

 

[-lowcountrydawg]

Need common sense gun I mean immigration enforcement if it can save 1 life its worth it. Did I do that right??

Taking it a step further. To make it a real analogy, this situation would be like

The specifics were here, one link beyond the linked story.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/03/us/immigrants-crime-numbers/index.html

In my personal experience which is relatively extensive in the last five years living and working in DFW the VAST MAJORITY of immigrants in the states want NOTHING TO DO with the legal process or government entities. They do everything they can to avoid interaction with the government and that includes being better drivers and residents than most citizens. If they were breaking the law, their odds of apprehension rise and thus deportation.

Yes, the murder and loss of life was terrible, but no worse than say a girl being drunk and street racing resulting in the deaths of two and violent injuries of two others?

Totally missing the point. Doesn't matter what the percentage stats are on crime and illegals. The point is that they are by definition illegal. They shouldn't be here, and thus - by definition, any violent crime they commit would have been prevented with enforcement at the border.

The analogy you quote beyond being somewhat distasteful is irrellevant. It wasn't an intentional crime first of all. And second, those at fault were here legally. There wasn't some political reason they were here illegally, creating an opportunity for a crime.

 

[TheTonyP]

I am taking a masters class currently at UGA and the discussion of illegal immigration came up. Every student (except me) and my professor said it was in poor taste to talk about illegal immigration and that it is because of capitalism that they are here anyway. ** MIND BLOWN**

 

[dawgsofga]

And another little issue....The media doesn't like inconvenient facts that are contrary to their narratives. So they bury them, and yell "NO EVIDENCE" to their critics.

Like the guy who said getting control of immigration would destroy the economy. You can find lots of articles, etc. that praise the economic contributions of immigrants. But information that offers evidence to the contrary is dismissed, as political propaganda, or better still.....racism/xenophobia, etc.

Just look at the left media for example, the AP and the AJC just reporting that an "Athens" man murdered a student leaving out the relevancy of the accused being an illegal alien.

 

[DawgWCK]

The specifics were here, one link beyond the linked story.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/03/us/immigrants-crime-numbers/index.html

In my personal experience which is relatively extensive in the last five years living and working in DFW the VAST MAJORITY of immigrants in the states want NOTHING TO DO with the legal process or government entities. They do everything they can to avoid interaction with the government and that includes being better drivers and residents than most citizens. If they were breaking the law, their odds of apprehension rise and thus deportation.

Yes, the murder and loss of life was terrible, but no worse than say a girl being drunk and street racing resulting in the deaths of two and violent injuries of two others?

I would agree with most of your first paragraph but would say a higher percentage of the illegal immigrants coming across border for last few years were young adult males, so would expect their likelihood of crime would be higher than a family unit coming across the border. That being said , I question any government reporting on crime statistics, high level of skepticism on reporting from a federal agency or blue city / state on this issue, too political.

Both incidents were tragic, one was intentional and apparent heinous. The other was foolish and careless; but there is certainly a difference.

 

[jay5020]

the left will do anything to deflect how bad their crap is

It's the Trumpers in the GOP that shot down the last border bill.

 

[Athens is Heaven]

It's the Trumpers in the GOP that shot down the last border bill.

Glad they did. That bill was nothing but trash put together by Shumer and McConnell one a Biden commie and another a turncoat Republican Rino.

 

[WyoDawg307]

It's the Trumpers in the GOP that shot down the last border bill.

TDS occludes clear thinking. The GOP shot down a crap bill that was mostly funding for the current "forever war".
You don't need to pass a bill to enforce the law. But they need to pass a bill to waste another 100 billion.

 

[Zonadog]

"Former President Donald Trump also referenced Ibarra in a social media post Monday as he pushed for his hardline immigration and border policies. In recent rallies, Trump has been arguing there is a new kind of crime called “migrant crime” and has vowed to conduct a large-scale deportation of undocumented migrants in the US should he win the 2024 election. But many researchers have found no such connection between immigration and crime levels, with some finding immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the US."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/26/us/uga-campus-killing-augusta-university-student-tuesday/index.html

Who are the "many researchers" in question here? Where, when and how did they study the connection between immigration and crime?

Shouldn't a professional writer cite a source, before making this type of claim? "Many researchers"....smh

"Many researchers" is just another code for "made up." Goes in the same category as "experts agree" and those elusive "97% of scientists."

 

[Georgia Jim]

It's the Trumpers in the GOP that shot down the last border bill.

A bad and flawed bill.....another half ass band-aid......

 

[Athens62]

It's the Trumpers in the GOP that shot down the last border bill.

Here you go! First thing Biden did was open the borders: https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01/20/joe-biden-trump-immigration/

 

[Athens is Heaven]

Here you go! First thing Biden did was open the borders: https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01/20/joe-biden-trump-immigration/

These people are so dumbed down by Biden’s MSM propaganda that they can’t even think for themselves. So pathetic.

 

[Athens62]

Quoting the Infamous Don Lemon “ Lie enough, it becomes the truth”.

 

[poorpreacher]

It's the Trumpers in the GOP that shot down the last border bill.

Check put Biden's actions on Day 1 of his presidency and get back to me.

The guy who killed Laken came over in 2022. A bill in 2024 wouldn't have prevented his entrance.

You don't lock a door, after a crook gets into your house. Can't you understand that?

 

[OriginalGatorHator]

You think hate journalist enough.

You think you do but you don’t

 

[WartownDawgFan]

You think hate journalist enough.

You think you do but you don’t

AJAB!

 

[litedawg1968]

It's the Trumpers in the GOP that shot down the last border bill.

Is a "Border bill" allows for 1.8 million illegals to come in annually really a border bill?

 

[WartownDawgFan]

It's the Trumpers in the GOP that shot down the last border bill.

What!!? How in the world could we turn down the large wooden horse that they rolled up to our front door! It looks so nice on the outside though!!!!

 

[jay5020]

Check put Biden's actions on Day 1 of his presidency and get back to me.

The guy who killed Laken came over in 2022. A bill in 2024 wouldn't have prevented his entrance.

You don't lock a door, after a crook gets into your house. Can't you understand that?

He was arrested 2 or 3 times and the cops let him go..... Where is your outrage on the local police?

 

[poorpreacher]

He was arrested 2 or 3 times and the cops let him go..... Where is your outrage on the local police?

Lol, where is your discussion of the topic at hand? You know, the one YOU raised?

 

[Boom MFer Dawg]

"Former President Donald Trump also referenced Ibarra in a social media post Monday as he pushed for his hardline immigration and border policies. In recent rallies, Trump has been arguing there is a new kind of crime called “migrant crime” and has vowed to conduct a large-scale deportation of undocumented migrants in the US should he win the 2024 election. But many researchers have found no such connection between immigration and crime levels, with some finding immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the US."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/26/us/uga-campus-killing-augusta-university-student-tuesday/index.html

Who are the "many researchers" in question here? Where, when and how did they study the connection between immigration and crime?

Shouldn't a professional writer cite a source, before making this type of claim? "Many researchers"....smh

Why the need to politicize this woman’s death?

 

[banjodawg]

The specifics were here, one link beyond the linked story.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/03/us/immigrants-crime-numbers/index.html

In my personal experience which is relatively extensive in the last five years living and working in DFW the VAST MAJORITY of immigrants in the states want NOTHING TO DO with the legal process or government entities. They do everything they can to avoid interaction with the government and that includes being better drivers and residents than most citizens. If they were breaking the law, their odds of apprehension rise and thus deportation.

Yes, the murder and loss of life was terrible, but no worse than say a girl being drunk and street racing resulting in the deaths of two and violent injuries of two others?

If they are here illegally, they are ALREADY Criminals and HAVE NO RIGHTS... Liberals do not live in the real world... Estimates that ILLEGALS from more than 100 countries are here... no one knows where, but the dems are ready to give them money, cell phones and free transportation... The blood of Laken is on senile Joe Biden's hands.................................

 

[zingerdawg]

He was arrested 2 or 3 times and the cops let him go..... Where is your outrage on the local police?

Did you miss the press conference where people yelled at the mayor? He had been let go here and in New York several times. Because of sanctuary city policies. Another dumbass idea. Turn a blind eye to crime and it will only escalate.

 

[atlanta cock#]

Why the need to politicize this woman’s death?

Because ever since Obama, everything is.

 

[Dawgfan1966]

Why the need to politicize this woman’s death?

No need to politicize this, but the reason she was murdered is on the hands of biden and his destructive policy of illegal immigration. That animal that killed her is here, due to such policies. Hopefully it is not too late to save our country by deporting all the illegal aliens that came across our border. It is costing us a fortune as well.