NRA making way to much sense for the left,
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Anybody with an open mind and half a functioning brain knows the loopholes need closing. Somewhere around 80% of Americans agree, even most gun owners agree.
I don't respect Your opinion on this because it's exactly The NRA's argument. They got Their talking points from the people they hired Who'd defended the tobacco industry even after there was clear proof they had conspired to lie for 30 years.
You don't think for Yourself, You're a puppet/parrot product of an advertising campaign.
I'm like most Americans, I'm sick of a mangy tail wagging Our great country at the expense of lives, treasure and peace of mind.
Heulenhund gonna close da' loopholes folks. Then you can all sleep better at night.
Next, he will propose legislation to ban hurricanes and tornadoes.
Next, he will propose legislation to ban hurricanes and tornadoes.
I don't have an opinion for you not to respect. The laws are already in place, enforce them. Guns, gun shows, or private sales are not the issue. Criminals are the issue. Get tough and stop releasing these people. How did Rudy clean up NYC? It's simple, but some people have agendas and see the solution.
If You need an opinion The NRA will give it to You.
Stop trying to act like You have a brain.
That might be Your most articulate post that wasn't copied from The NRA web site.
He'll barely sleep before the alarm goes off to report to the government job. We'll never know, but I guarantee it. Paper pushing socialist, government piece of shit. Can't even discuss the other opinion. Amazing!!
You guarantee it, that means exactly nothing. Well, it does confirm yet again how FOS You are.
You Daisy Crockets be careful with that pistol You squeeze under Your pillow every night. Don't get too shaky and pull the trigger in Your sleep.
Night all..GO DAWGS.
Night all..GO DAWGS.
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just repeating what she said , she wouldn't say something she didn't mean, would she ?
Again, Criminals don't follow laws, no need to make more, just enforce what is already there. Instead Obama's Justice Department is pro thuglife and believes gangbangers, thieves, and rioters are good boys.... Especially if they are black or here illegally.
That may be the most ridiculous of all the ridiculous NRA sound bites.
With that logic why even have laws ? Isn't it evidence enough they don't work that banks are still robbed and drunks still kill on Our highways ?
Anybody can see the flaws in the World, it takes a bit more imagination to grasp how much worse things would be if We stopped trying.
Making it harder for unqualified people to obtain weapons is the right path. I have no doubt good would come of it.
Name a politician Who doesn't lie or stretch the truth for political purposes.
Personally I've never come across one.
i didn't know registering vehicles was protected by the second amendment ! i know one thing , i have looked at your numerous post about gun control and determined you have no experience with guns ,hunting , gun shows , buying or selling guns and the nra , your info posted is from liberal sites and google . oh, i don't know why you would believe odumma when he says that he doesn't want to take our guns ( if you have any ) , his track record on honesty is not good !
Regulation
There is no Constitutional law against registration of weapons.
To the contrary The Second Amendment deals with the issue in it's first sentence.
''A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, Being necessary to the security of a free state''.
Nowhere does it state the arming of citizen can't be regulated in the form of registering their arms.
In fact the following year after The Bill Of Rights was signed in 1791, The Second Militia Act became law stating every able white male between the ages of 18 and. 45 had to register in case a militia needs to be activated.
''Registration'' and ''Regulation'' was central to the thinking of those Who penned those documents and PROMENENTLY written into them. The intent is clear,
On this there is no question.
There is no Constitutional law against registration of weapons.
To the contrary The Second Amendment deals with the issue in it's first sentence.
''A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, Being necessary to the security of a free state''.
Nowhere does it state the arming of citizen can't be regulated in the form of registering their arms.
In fact the following year after The Bill Of Rights was signed in 1791, The Second Militia Act became law stating every able white male between the ages of 18 and. 45 had to register in case a militia needs to be activated.
''Registration'' and ''Regulation'' was central to the thinking of those Who penned those documents and PROMENENTLY written into them. The intent is clear,
On this there is no question.
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I think you should check your facts more carefully about gun owners "overwhelmingly support" the actions of the POTUS. Name one incident where the murders of innocent children or theater attendees or the police officer just shot in PA would have been adverted by the POTUS proposed firearms policies. Have you ever attend a gun safety program put on by the NRA? I would encourage you to do your research a little more in depth before making comments about the NRA. If the country did not have an organization like the NRA in this country, what do you the statistics would be about regarding gun safety or defending us from a gun attack. Lastly, murder rates with guns are down 40% and those using guns in violent crime acts represent less than 1% of all gun owners. I have yet to see anyone including the media show a quantitive survey whereby NRA members were actually responsible for any of these murders. So tell me again why the NRA is led by zealots???
Guys, I tried to have a conversation with @HeulenHund2 last night. It's impossible. He or she is an ideologue and doesn't realize it. He or she would rather just throw verbal bombs with no facts, but a lot of emotion. Basically it's an idiot with a keyboard. It's probably trying to figure out a response to the terrorist in philly. How would more gun control have stopped it?
I don't have to check My facts, I know them.
I've already pointed out in NYC alone most of the guns used in crimes come from out of state, primarily in the south. That's because cave-people prevail in making policy in this region, as they have for 300 years.
There is absolutely no Constitutional grounds for not having mandatory registration on all guns. The only hold up is cowardly Congress persons who bow to a rather small ignorant minority.
the Australians i know would disagree with you , they rue the day it happened to them. why do you think the govt knows best , the people involved put there pants on just like we do , they are not brain thrust that are always right , so give us a break and get off this ' GOVT KNOWS BEST ATTITUDE . if you don't like the south , find some where else to live , that is if you really live in north carolina .
The government knows best ? How about the near 80% of US Citizens who Disagree with The NRA and Their rigid stance against any and all proposed measures to make it harder for criminals and mentally ill people to get Their hands on guns ?
I don't have to believe anybody, I think for myself. The NRA is a vile organization far more concerned with Their true purpose of lobbying for The Gun Industries than They are with The People of this country.
I'm not running away from The South to leave it to idiots, why should I bow to the forces that are the ideological Children of the worst in Our Regional history ? f...them. I'll keep fighting the good fight.
Wow, I really didn't think this person could go further left. I tried to find middle ground to no avail. Once an ideologue,always an ideologue. Can't see or even discuss the other opinion. Thankfully there's only 15% of them.
Name a single opinion I've posted that is far left.
If I'm far left on this particular issue, 80% of Americans are as well.
People like You just have Your nose so far up these radical far right propaganda web sites, You come to think they represent the average American, they don't.
Seriously, half the time when one of You start a really out there thread, I can find where the seeds were sewn at one or more of those sites.
A quick check of polls reveals that most results show over 90% of registered voters who responded favor universal background checks. The lowest I saw was 85%.
That is a WHOLE lot of far left folks.
That is a WHOLE lot of far left folks.
You are way off my friend. try reading "in-depth" as to their reason for fighting the left on gun laws. There are a lot of back door traps that these proposed common sense changes have. really sad that our politicians and judges can't be trusted.
It's really sad if You can't trust Your Own intellect to read bills and not just think the government is out to get You.
Universal background checks and registration are common sense MODERATE steps that have the support of most Americans.
you know that the way questions are asked determines the results of a poll , i can guarantee you that 80% do not want to do anything to effect their ability to keep or purchase a gun if they so wish . if you lived in the real world ,you would know that , remember only 24% of registered voters claim to be liberal . lastly ,you keep ignoring the fact that we already have background checks and some states require training to purchase a gun ; but the terrorist and bad guys will still get guns, if not guns they will utilize knifes, bombs,automobiles , etc . .
cnn had a town hall on gun control , trying to make terrorism a gun control issue . the prez was asked why the govt doesn't enforce the gun laws already on the books , he blamed it on congress , saying they had cut funds . nobody asked him , based on that ; how can we fund new gun laws ???
It's easy because You use stock material that has no factual basis.
The truth is most red states are net takers of federal dollars, while the most progressive states are net senders of those federal funds.
You know what. If it makes you feel better they should just go ahead and give y'all what you want. They should do it for your feelz.
That way when it doesn't work, .GOV can say "oh well, we tried....now, time to turn then all in". Right?
You need to check your facts. It was reported in the media last week when O'dumbass issued his EOs that the total percentage of all people that supported Universal Background Checks was 53%. Quit spouting 80% as that isn't close to correct.
Not true, The NRA always has Their own polls where They ask questions in a loaded manner, but every poll I've seen has a minimum of 85% of registered voters in favor of universal background checks.
I don't pay attention to anything The NRA has Their sneaky, gun industry lobbyist hands in.
You are full of it. The NRA is a cross section of average American citizens that are responsible and are self reliant. We do not want big brother taking our means of protection away leaving the criminals with the weapons to do their law breaking at will. If they could figure how to keep the criminals and liberals from getting guns we would not be having this discussion. 53% of people polled agreed with stricter guns laws, which is close to the number of government dependents in this nation.
Big surprise huh? Talk about sneaky, obscure the facts and make false assumptions to further your cause, that is the progressive way.
Self reliant ? The NRA is made up of manipulators, manipulated, overly fearful, posers and dupes.
There isn't a rational reason to oppose universal background checks. It's telling that those Who are the most obsessed with gun rights are the most fearful the world around them.
you know nothing about the nra except what you read on lib sites or make up . your talking points are obvious and very telling , you don't know what you are talking about . very typical , if you don't know , make it up as you go . LOL
