NRA making way to much sense for the left,
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I'm sorry but the loopholes you are talking about don't exist. Unless, of course, you are talking face to face sales not going through an FFL. And guess what?...If you ban FTF transactions you will only drive it underground and the criminals and mentally unstable still won't give a ****.
The face to face sales in private and at gun shows ARE the loopholes. If You think it's ok to leave that massive end around in place, You have clearly drank the NRA kool aid.
It's border line nuts to think any other measures will work when anybody can drive from Chicago to Kentucky, buy all the guns they can haul, then sell them on the streets of Chi-Town without any traceable route to the gun runner.
"Gun Runner". The only proven gun runner that we know for 100% is the Obama administration running guns into Mexico. Isn't it already illegal to commit a crime with a firearm? Wait, that's an oxymoron. Illegal is a crime. More pandering gun laws won't accomplish the desired result. Our politicians both nationally and locally need to enforce the laws on the books and abide by sentencing guidelines that are also on the books. Get tough on criminals, not law abiding citizens.
Hey GUESS WHAT?
There are ALREADY laws on the books prohibiting such activity.
Guess who doesn't give a flock about those laws?
No more conceding ground on this issue. The leftists have been given enough. Period.
Make no mistake. The Bolsheviks among us are very patient and are playing the long game of confiscation. Every little concession, every inch they gain is another step towards it.
The NRA is saying NO MORE.
"universal" background checks is their goal, because they know it amounts to de facto registration
Universal background checks would be fine with Me.
Then again, I'm not the paranoid type.
You simply have way too much trust that big government really cares about our safety and well being. They are only concerned with staying in power and ruling the minions with ever freedom squashing laws and regulations. Look at the money trail, what sector is the richest class of jobs? Politicians, lobbyist and the adjacent job titles that work in that sector. They talk about the widening gap in income equality, but never mention themselves of course.
People rarely use a legally gotten gun for crime,,,,but the left likes to just make themelves feel better.
Trump/Cruz will over turn it and destroy planned parenthood in retaliation.
Trump/Cruz will over turn it and destroy planned parenthood in retaliation.
That is a croc. The pipeline from states where you can easily obtain weapons to NE cities is a huge problem.
The only cure is to make it tough everywhere. Most important is to make the weapons traceable to the people who legally purchase them and start the black market chain.
A quick search yielded results of a study that showed nearly 70% of the guns used for crimes in NYC first came to NY from out of state, mostly southern states, where They were bought legally, brought north and sold illegally on the black market. It is by far the safest way for black market sellers because there is only one crime, stealing guns is far riskier for both the black market seller and their customers.
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I bought my wife a new Sig 380 for Christmas in Sandy Springs, GA. Did a background check and paid for the gun. What more do you want from the "Southern States"? They're adhering with the law. Your argument is weak. The laws are already there. Murder is illegal, shooting a human is illegal, buying a firearm by a felon is illegal. What more do you want?
My argument is rock solid. You just ignore it.
Who ''did a background check'' by the way ? I'm assuming it was a store or licensed dealer.
If You'd wanted to turn it over for a tidy profit You could have bought one from an individual, run it up north and the profit would have paid for a mini vacation in The City.
Yep what we need is another law to make what is already illegal even more illegal. That oughtta fix it!
You couldn't be that naïve..could you ?
It's illegal for an individual to KNOWINGLY sell a firearm to a criminal.
A person selling a gun in Georgia doesn't have to gather any personal information or do a background check if they don't have a license though, so it's only a law on paper.
I guess You couldn't sell to Your Brother if He is a felon, but maybe You could. You could sell to ANY person You don't know without having any information in case the gun was used in a crime.
So the chain of provable ownership would come to a dead end.
You people are willing stooges for The NRA.
It's a good thing drugs are illegal, otherwise crazy people would be able to buy them! Wait a minute...
Hey, let's stop forcing Americans to register vehicles. While We're doing crazy, let's stop criminalizing bank robbery. Banks are being robbed, so what good does it do to have laws ?
That's it!!! Ask Siri what zero divided by zero is? The Heulenhund described to a T. Damn good job, @Molardawg2
You changed Your handle, probably because I crushed Your old one.
If You ever get an opinion of Your Own You might give Me a bit of a challenge. You cookie cutter NRA kooks are too easy.
One of You is as lame as the next. Reach in Your diaper, sniff Your fingers and call it logic.
No diapers again yet. Hopefully, I won't need them again. Enjoying aging after building and selling several companies. I'm no ideologue, we probably agree on immigration and the death penalty. However, we'll probably disagree on gun control and taxes. It's the political left and right that are the problem. And mindless supporters of either side always go to comments like you just made. Sad, I'll pray for you.
Especially gasoline. Heulenhund does know that one of the largest mass murders in US history was committed with a gallon of gas and a match right?
It's probably coming. In hindsight, my mistake was probably trying to actually have a dialogue with him. He seems to be very one sided with no need for a differing opinion. Oh well, live like that and be dependent or make your own choices and decisions and be prosperous. His loss, not mine.
There is no point in trying to reason when You use ridiculous ''logic'' that I've seen a 1000 times, it isn't any better the 1000th time than the 1st.
It's simple, there are loopholes that can be explained to open minded 12 year olds that You just refuse to see.
Everybody on this board has bought and sold multiple companies. It's how You know They're not BSers.
So you're saying an honest average joe from the south will buy a gun legally here and go up north to sell it and make some good money? That would be like doing business with an unknown drug dealer, chances are the gun buyer will rob or kill the average joe. Your concept is weak and stupid. Most gun buyers buy for their own use and would not want ANY weapons in the hands of criminals, period!
So, the 1000th time that you say "we need to close the loopholes" means we should believe you? Tried to be civil, no more. You're a f*#*ing idiot. Have you ever considered, why you're in the minority? Again, try and think before you respond. I can't help you anymore.
One more time because I am pretty patient...
Your proposed scenario is already illegal. The gun runnerr doesn't care about any no sensical laws banning FTF sales. Period.
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The second amendment concerns a person's right, not privilege.
Oh and while we are at it, show me in the Constitution where it says you have the right to operate a motor vehicle on the highways.
The second amendment concerns a person's right, not privilege.
You're an idiot, but in Your defense, You're a very common idiot, it's not like You don't have company.
It's good thing we have you around to show us the error of ways. You arrogant ass, I bet you can't manage your own life so you are going to to tell us how we should think and do. You've obviously run everybody off in your life, all you do is stay on this board all the time.
Get a life dude and start being nice to people, maybe someone will want to have something to do with you and you want have to stay on this board all day.
Pitiful.
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