The Case for Trump, from people that can't stand him
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You said everyone except the blacks. Whatever Dude. You're blocked. Save your breath for someone who cares.
Okay….I’ll play. These should be easy questions for a smart fellow like you:
Do you have to be 100%, 50%, 25% black to qualify for reparations? Where is the line drawn?
How much would make you happy?
Who pays, whites only??…..and is that 100%, 50% or 25% Caucasian. Where is the line drawn, who is on the hook?
And again, what about the Native Americans, are they getting left out.
Blocked for discussing a very sensitive topic. That's how we get better!!!
Go Dawgs....
And I do apologize for "being aggressive" today. I certainly portrayed a more aggressive approach with this matter. It's not you. I don't know you. I speak (post) in generalities of the most likely people who think like you.
I only aim to truly bring a different HONEST prospective of a % of the group that I am more aligned with about this topic. I never mean and personal attacks. It's Business, never Personal. God Speed.
Go Dawgs....
And I do apologize for "being aggressive" today. I certainly portrayed a more aggressive approach with this matter. It's not you. I don't know you. I speak (post) in generalities of the most likely people who think like you.
I only aim to truly bring a different HONEST prospective of a % of the group that I am more aligned with about this topic. I never mean and personal attacks. It's Business, never Personal. God Speed.
Please define:
1. A "Black American"
2. Who qualifies for reparations
3. Why anybody descended from any enslaved group wouldn't also qualify for reparations
4. The exact details of how reparations would be paid to "Black Americans".
Here is a starting point:
- Japanese Internment Reparations (1988): The most cited example is the Civil Liberties Act of 1988, where the U.S. government offered an official apology and reparations to Japanese Americans who were interned during World War II. Each surviving internee received $20,000.
- Native American Reparations: Over time, various treaties, acts, and settlements have been made with Native American tribes, though these are often more compensatory or land-based rather than direct financial reparations for past injustices. Examples include land returns, fishing rights, and monetary settlements like those following the Cobell v. Salazar lawsuit for mismanagement of Indian trust funds.
- Holocaust Victims: While not directly from U.S. government funds, the U.S. has supported reparations programs for Holocaust survivors, particularly through legislation that facilitated the recovery of assets or insurance benefits from European institutions.
- Oklahoma Race Riot of 1921: Reparations were provided in the form of scholarships, economic development funds, and symbolic gestures for survivors of the Tulsa Race Massacre. This was not direct financial compensation to individuals but aimed at community restitution.
- Victims of Medical Experiments: The Tuskegee Syphilis Study victims received financial compensation and benefits after a lawsuit in 1974, though this might be seen more as a settlement for medical malpractice rather than reparations for racial injustice.
...also, what is "owed"? Please be specific.
Thanks.
All great questions. Worth discussing. I don't have an answer for you sir.
I just know the Indians at least got their reservations. They got their lands and able to do casinos and other business with different laws than our Constitution. They got something.
Only 1 race has gotten nothing. Figure it out.
Nothing?
At all? One could argue that affirmative action was an attempt to right the past wrongs. Are blacks struggling in America? If so, why?
Who is Gullible? he keeps saying things like "I am your retribution" and he is just kidding?
The only issue is weather or not have a Dictatorship. Trump is not kidding about what he'd do.
"Dictatorship"?
(FYI, the 'weather' will never be dictated by anybody other than HARP!)
(also FYI, your middle-school level debate script didn't print out all the pages....just being helpful, yo)
No big deal, I am as curious about it as you are and understand the argument. But realistically, it ain’t happening.
Quick story about myself, I’ve told this before on here - proud of my heritage:
My “Granny” was 100% Native American, I am very proud to be 25% myself (hence, the Native American questions).
My Mom and Dad got divorced when I was about 10 or 11 years of age. We had to move in with my “Granny” (the “Injun”) to survive. It was in the housing projects. Lived with my Granny for about a year while my Mother waited tables to support my little brother and I.
After the first year of living there, we could afford to move out to our own apartment…..but it was in the same housing projects.
I was about as poor as poor could be back then.
Learned early that no one is going to give you anything. If you want it, you have to go get it…..nothing is given.
Athletically back then, I was good enough to get a division 1 or 2 football scholarship…..until I wasn’t. FOCKED my knee to hayul and back my junior year, shredded it. The following year my 7th vertebrae broke off.
There went my college plans, ended up working to send my way through. It took about 6 years, but got her done with no help at all.
Success can be there for anyone, if someone has the “want to”. People don’t care about your race anymore, it’s been that way for a long time. It’s what you know and what you can do for them that matters most.
Thinks everybody should be poor at least once in their lives.
I’ve been “healed”, as you say..…”for long time now”.
Reparations would destroy this country, not a good move.
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70% illegitimacy rate, black on black crime, continuing to vote just the way LBJ intended them to, etc…
That is a narrow minded view. You are focused on one event primarily and you have a current administration that has done things that undermine our democracy as the left likes to tout. They have done it in more ways and in more subtle ways but I think in a much more dangerous fashion. All the while you and others can only focus on Trump.
Could not agree more with "everyone should be poor at least one time".
You either sink or swim.
Makes you really appreciate who and what you have in your life.
Well it was directed basically at a particular point unlike other posts that go all over the place without directly responding (such as in this thread). That's not a definition of a narrow minded view.
Have you forgotten the OP made a number of statements about Trump? Another poster made the comment that the first item was not true and I commented that no one defended that point of the OP. So, it was perfectly appropriate that I only focus on Trump.
So you are now added to the list of those who are not disputing that Trump does not put America first, but puts himself first. You can disagree and have your opinion, but you are not offering any rebuttal.
Yes, we might focus on Trump as he continues to show he is unsuitable to be President again regardless of what he did before. He is not the same person, but has gotten worse. I hope you are paying attention to his appearances around the country.
