Typical if you don’t agree with my stance you must be “a liberal”, which relies on assumption that there are only 2 polar opposite extremes. Black & white thinking is easy. It avoids dealing with the scary grey areas.
The newest phony controversy from so called "whistleblower":
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Typical if you don’t agree with my stance you must be “a liberal”, which relies on assumption that there are only 2 polar opposite extremes. Black & white thinking is easy. It avoids dealing with the scary grey areas.
If it walks and quacks like a duck , it is a duck!
So own your illogical existence.
If there were actually facts that he committed a crime worthy of impeachment then u would be surprised how many would be for impeachment. But with all the investigations, there hasn't been anything arising to that level.
There are also many on here who could never say even one postive thing about DT. There are also many dems who jump to impeachment for anything and everything.
You are illustrating my point. As I said, black & white thinking is easy. I will not attempt to reason with it.
This is so hypocritical. Dems have defended the Obama admin which investigated DT even trying to embed spies into the campaign that tried to set up Trump officials. Dems said BO would be derelict in his duty not investigating a potentialPres. Unfortunately he had no evidence. Trump on the other hand had evidence of corruption by Biden, the DNC using dirt from Ukraine to take out Manafort, and possibly Crowdstrike. Biden would certainly be suject to blackmail by both Ukraine and China. Poor Joe is done.
No dummy. They know what's in it. And now, even a 20 watt like you can ... if you can pay attention long enough.
Hey dummy, the Senate voted to release the WHISTLEBLOWER REPORTNo dummy. They know what's in it. And now, even a 20 watt like you can ... if you can pay attention long enough.
And DJT offered to release the transcripts of the actual call we've now seen, the "whistleblower" report, and the IG report yesterday BEFORE the Senate voted.
What's your point?
POTUS has been begging the press etal to keep on digging all week fully warning them they're once again setting themselves up.
In any case we hopefully will see the whistleblower's report soon, which won't amount to a hill of beans if in fact it is hearsay as it is being reported to be.
One correction:
They didn't "try" to embed spies into the campaign. They DID embed spies into the campaign and subsequently embedded spies into the WH after inauguration.
Just watch creepy uncle Joe go down with these "Facts",
while Trump will be shown to have been exposing the corruption in DC
There is the actual transcript of the phone call. WTF difference does it matter what some asswipe said about in a report when the actual transcript is released. The democRATs are, as usual, FOS ... that means YOU.
Actually Trump was talking about the investigating 2016 election corruption not Biden until the Ukraine President brought it up.
It is not a transcript, there are items omitted from the actual call.
The White House admitted that what was released was not a "verbatim transcript."
Wonder what was left out?
It does not matter. The President can say anything he wants. You idiots don't have any control over it. He is the President. He sets the policy. All other agencies must obey. But you ain't seen nuthin yet. He has the power to do a whole lot more than he is using. But don't worry ... "tell nancy that after the election he will have much more flexibility".
He's going to wreak holy hell on that criminal syndicate pretending to be a the democRAT party.
Impeach ... LOL you guys are fkn clowns.
Food was all in on Russia. Tried to act like he was independent middle of the road at times. He’s full blown dim and falling for another witch hunt. It’s sad, but fun to watch.
I have no idea who this guy is, but I’ve seen this in two different places today. He starts off with obvious stuff we all know, but then it gets more interesting:
By: Hyram F. Suddfluffel, PhD, (Political Science)
I have a degree in Political Science, and I am a card-carrying Libertarian. I've been studying politics and political history for the past 30 years. My specialty is U.S. Presidents. That said, I hope that the House of
Representatives impeaches Trump. Let me tell you what will happen next:
1. The House can pass articles of impeachment over the objections of the
Republicans, and refer to the Senate for trial.
2. The Senate will conduct a trial. There will be a vote, and the Republicans will vote unanimously, along with a small number of Democrats, to not convict the President. Legally, it will all be over at that point.
3. However, during the trial, and this is what no one is thinking about right now, the President's attorneys will have the right to subpoena and question ANYONE THEY WANT.. That is different than the special counsel
investigation, which was very one-sided. So, during the impeachment trial, we will be hearing testimony from James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Glenn Simpson, Donna Brazile, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, Christopher Steele, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, and a whole host of other participants in this whole sordid affair and the ensuing cover up activities.
A lot of dirt will be dug up; a lot of truth will be unveiled. Finger pointing will occur. Deals will start being made, and suddenly, a lot of democrats will start being charged and going to prison.
All this, because, remember, the President's team will now, for the first time, have the RIGHT to question all of these people under oath – and they will turn on each other. That is already starting.
4. Lastly, one more thing will happen, the Senate will not convict the President. Nothing will happen to Trump. Most Americans are clueless about political processes, the law, and the Constitution. Most Americans believe
that being impeached results in removal from office. They don't understand that phase 2 is a trial in and by the Senate, where he has zero chance of conviction. Remember, the Senate is controlled by Republicans; they will determine what testimony is allowed -- and **everything** will be allowed, including: DNC collusion with the Clinton campaign to fix the election in favor of Hillary, the creation of the Trump dossier, the cover up and destruction of emails that very likely included incriminating information.
They will incriminate each other for lying to the FISA court, for spying and wiretapping the Trump campaign, and for colluding with foreign political actors, especially George Soros. After the Senate declines to convict the President, we will have an election, and Trump will win. It will be a backlash against democrat petulance, temper tantrums, hypocrisy and dishonesty. Even minorities will vote for Trump, because, for the first time, they will see that democrats have spent 2+ years focused on maintaining their own power, and not doing anything at all about black murders in Chicago, homelessness, opioids, and other important issues that are actually killing people. And, we will spend the following four years listening to politicians and pundits claim that the whole impeachment was rigged.
So let's move on to impeachment then, shall we...
Still all in on Russia, the Mueller Report gave numerous examples of the Trump campaign working with the Russians, Mueller said it did not meet the standard of a conspiracy, but the campaign did work with our biggest enemy (well, our biggest enemy to all Americans other than Trumpers.)
Dem's have gone batsh*t crazy, and the Pubs have been taken over by Trumpers.
Who the hell do you vote for?
And, as if on cue....You, crawl out from under your Rock... please slither back and STFU
Food,
I perused several lib websites yesterday and today. CNN was reporting that Trump pushed the president of Ukraine 8 times to investigate Biden. Totally untrue.
I read an AP article that said there was no evidence that Biden did anything corrupt in Ukraine or China. Totally untrue. There is a fu'ckin tape where he stupidly bragged about withholding funds from Ukraine unless the prosecutor investigating his son's activities with a natural gas company in Ukraine was fired. His son received millions from both countries.
Now I know why u are so wrong on so many issues.
[QUOTE="dawgfood0612, post: 4270112, member: 9572"
Who the hell do you vote for?[/QUOTE]
The one who most closely matches your values. In your case, that will be Bernie or Beatoff.
Who the hell do you vote for?[/QUOTE]
The one who most closely matches your values. In your case, that will be Bernie or Beatoff.
Here’s a huge problem in this whole process. People watch the news and this shapes their view. However, nearly every major network including a segment by Shep Smith on Fox is using parts of the transcript and leaving out what’s in between. Pay attention. I caught it earlier in something I was reading.
The favor POTUS asks for is related to looking into Crowdstrike & other matters stemming from the 2016 election interference. The media is skipping this portion to make it sound like he’s asking for a favor in looking into Biden. Read the actual transcript. You’re being misled yet again.
The favor POTUS asks for is related to looking into Crowdstrike & other matters stemming from the 2016 election interference. The media is skipping this portion to make it sound like he’s asking for a favor in looking into Biden. Read the actual transcript. You’re being misled yet again.
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Elizabeth Warren taking out Trump & Biden on 1 gambit.
Let’s drop back a few years and go after Obama for sicing the IRS on Republicans.
Even the conservative Washington Examiner, who y’all have quoted dozens of times...
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/a-quid-and-a-quo-and-trump-should-go
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/a-quid-and-a-quo-and-trump-should-go
Guys, they are completely fabricating things now.
Be careful what you read & give it time & thought. This is dangerous reporting from all directions
Be careful what you read & give it time & thought. This is dangerous reporting from all directions
A duck is a multi-colored creature capable of independent thoughts. I’m sorry, to have put the duck in the same category as a liberal. So no it’s more than black and white, and so is the basis for the statement in question.
And the “whistle blower” isn’t even a whistleblower.
These two sentences are all that matters when it comes down to it:
"According to many White House officials I spoke with"
"I was not a direct witness to most of the events described"
These two sentences are all that matters when it comes down to it:
"According to many White House officials I spoke with"
"I was not a direct witness to most of the events described"
Trump specifically asked the "favor" be to look into Biden and his son. He asks three times
Man, and they tried to cover it up! It’s not always the crime that’s the worst, but the cover up!!
I say again, Pelosi is Elizabeth Warren’s hatchet, Lizzie is taking out Biden and Trump and no kaka on Lizzie’s hands.
You can be impeached for jaywalking or leaving DNA on a #metoo# intern’s dress or using the IRS to gain political advantage over a rival party.
Now being removed from office is altogether another matter.
In a way, if Trump can weather this storm w/o his borderline personality degrading into a psychotic megalomaniac break with reality - I’ll actually feel better about him.
I just wish both parties would do a much better job of offering candidates- Trump & Warren both suck to my Libertarian way of thinking.
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No he does not ask for the “favor” of looking into Biden. He asks him to look into issues of Crowdstrike & the missing DNC servers as related to the 2016 election.
The Ukrainian president then goes on in the next paragraph (which is the one our media continues to skip) about other subjects and brings up Giuliani. That is when potus begins talking about the prosecutor being fired and brings up Biden. Once not three times.
Where are you getting your information?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
You see, there’s a slight problem here. Lutsenko is not the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma. Shokin was the prosecutor who was leading the investigation and fired after Biden pressured the former Ukraine president.
Here’s Shokins sworn statement just released in a document dump. Maybe you should read it.
You are incorrect and obviously have not read the transcript.
The President asked Zelenskyy for a favor on page 3 of the transcript. I have copied it and pasted it here. Trump asks Zelenskyy to investigate Crowdstrike. I'm sure you have no idea what that is. If you did, you would not make such an ignoramus of yourself. So go find out and get back to us.
Here's a hint:
It is not Joe Biden's son's name.
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For sure Biden should quit and have to pay back all the tax payer money he used to blackmail Ukraine to keep his son out of jail. Also Leahy, Menendez, and Dick turbin should all resign since there is a smoking gun letter that they wrote using the withholding of aid to UKraine in exchange for their help on the Mueller investigation.
