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Vax Antibody Study and Natural Immunity

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reposting for anyone interested. The author's name will go nameless.

People who were previously infected with Covid have less natural protection six months after getting Pfizer’s mRNA shot, Belgian research shows.
Overall antibodies to the spike protein soar after the shot, then crash, just as they do in people who were uninfected before they were vaccinated.
Even more worrisome, "neutralizing” antibodies, the most crucial type, are actually lower in those previously infected people than they were before the vaccination cycle began.
The paper, which was published in September but has received little attention, examined antibody levels in 231 healthcare workers in Belgium. About 1/3 of the workers had previously been infected before being vaccinated. The researchers also ran more sophisticated tests to determine neutralizing antibody levels on 60 of the patients.
The chart below shows levels of neutralizing antibodies in people who did NOT (left) and who DID (right) have evidence of previous Sars-Cov-2 infections. Higher is better, higher means the researchers could dilute the antibodies more and still find they would stop infection.
See how antibodies spike and then decline on both sides - and wind up lower on average after six months in the group on the right than they were at the beginning?

SOURCE: Waning of IgG, Total and Neutralizing Antibodies 6 Months Post-Vaccination with BNT162b2

Further, the study suggests strongly that the boomerang effect from mRNA shot itself is to blame.
Why?
The researchers also found the vaccinations do not damage levels of another kind of antibody in previously infected people. But that kind is promoted only during natural recovery rather than vaccination.
Those “anti-nucleocapsid-protein” antibodies did not rise or fall after the mRNA shots. They remained roughly level in previously infected people during the six months that researchers measured them.


To be clear, the paper did not examine whether people who have received the mRNA shots BEFORE becoming infected and recovering might have damaged their prospects of long-term immunity.
But it does suggest that the public health insistence that natural immunity doesn’t count and an mRNA dose can only help has been completely misguided; it appears instead that artificially trying to increase natural immunity actually lowers antibody levels long term.
The epidemiological data, at least that data that the Centers for Disease Control doesn’t produce, suggests the same. Infection levels are very similar in people who have natural immunity whether or not they have received mRNA jabs. Sometimes they are lower.
Sure wish we’d run studies like this before giving a billion people mRNA.
Next pandemic for sure.
 
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The studies that are coming out are demonstrating negative effects for those vaccinated. A very short term positive effect (3-4 months really) with side effects occurring most consistently in the near short term (0-4 weeks) post shot and then declining natural immunity post month 4.

The studies out of Israel are also showing that it appears each additional shot after the first 2 has a shorter benefit period then the initial 2. Risk of side effects goes up and positive effects go down.

The biggest concern is the year over year mortality numbers which are harder to hide the statistics. Some of this is lack of medical care during Covid for others but much of it looks like it is the vaccine itself.
 
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