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NonDawg Any here make the jump to an EV?

Cause they don’t meet towing goals, are overpriced to begin with, sales are lagging.

Not sure about the towing part (nor do I care), but it definitely seems like #3 was entirely caused by the dealers getting greedy and causing #2 with their insane markups. But I can get an extended range Lariat for right around $60k right now. That's $10k less than the ICE model.

Holy smokes Trump and Zelenskyy meeting !

Zelensky is a moron for coming out like that. And wear a damn suit, man. He looks like a teenager who lives in his parent’s basement. I wish it hadn ‘t played out in public like that but everyone got see what a petulant idiot he is. All the Trump haters and Ukraine flag waiving sunshine pumpers are going to lose it and blame Trump and Vance. But watch the beginning of the presser before Zelensky gets put in his place. He needs to learn to shut up and get through the presser. He made a big mistake going on the campaign trail with Harris and Biden.
Yep, pretty much have already said the same earlier.

Holy smokes Trump and Zelenskyy meeting !

Zelensky is a moron for coming out like that. And wear a damn suit, man. He looks like a teenager who lives in his parent’s basement. I wish it hadn ‘t played out in public like that but everyone got see what a petulant idiot he is. All the Trump haters and Ukraine flag waiving sunshine pumpers are going to lose it and blame Trump and Vance. But watch the beginning of the presser before Zelensky gets put in his place. He needs to learn to shut up and get through the presser. He made a big mistake going on the campaign trail with Harris and Biden.

NonDawg Any here make the jump to an EV?

We've had a Tesla as our family car for 3+ years now and our experience is exact opposite of everything you say.

The drive is incredibly smooth. Best car on the road I've ever driven. So agile and incredibly fast.

Zero maintenance, exc tires ... and 1x/yr cabin filter so the AC doesn't stink.

Tesla supercharger network is awesome, as long as you're not going to some remote area. We take our Tesla everywhere on long trips and it's a breeze. 20 min stops to charge after 300 miles and it's usually at a Panera, Dunkin, etc so we go bathroom, get a drink, and it's done.

Wife's fam lives in small town South GA, so visiting there ... we just charge in Macon on the way down/back ... and use the plug-in wall charger to top off while we sleep.

I heard the "Tesla insurance" rumors before we bought, but it's been total BS. Our family has 4 cars (F150, Jeep, etc) and the Tesla is by far the cheapest.

Looks like that is all up in the air. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...omakers-shift-plans-away-from-evs/ar-AA1zP3yv

Honestly this thread and all of the comments has gotten me looking at a F150 Lightning. They are running some pretty significant promos on those right now.
Cause they don’t meet towing goals, are overpriced to begin with, sales are lagging.
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