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Dirty Hairy Dawg said:
I agree the list in and of itself doesn't mean much. Pritzker is a 100% douche but he was wealthy before entering government service. Otoh, yeah, McConnell's wife comes from a insanely wealthy family but that family is also connected to the Chicom leadership. One could even argue their shipping company is controlled by Xi's government.

Wealth alone is not good nor bad but I would like a press corp that tried to shine light on how some of our pols go from small fortunes to large fortunes in just a couple of yrs by doing real investigative journalism. Imo, Samantha Powers would be a great place to start.
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None of these people should have been listed. I don’t care how douschey they are. Or any of that. The point of the post was political corruption to get wealthy. And this list of names proves none of that. It is pure garbage in every single sense
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jpzd33 said:
“Regardless, the bigger issue are the members who have no legitimate explanation for their wealth prior to government service”

Cause this list really doesn’t have any. Warren being the 1 exception, though not really as her net worth was vastly exaggerated
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I agree the list in and of itself doesn't mean much. Pritzker is a 100% douche but he was wealthy before entering government service. Otoh, yeah, McConnell's wife comes from a insanely wealthy family but that family is also connected to the Chicom leadership. One could even argue their shipping company is controlled by Xi's government.

Wealth alone is not good nor bad but I would like a press corp that tried to shine light on how some of our pols go from small fortunes to large fortunes in just a couple of yrs by doing real investigative journalism. Imo, Samantha Powers would be a great place to start.
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Lava-Man said:
My comment wasn't specifically for the list, but the overall issue. I thought that was clear in the context of the post (use of "bigger issue" and the word "members" vs "those listed") I was responding to. But, apologies if it wasn't.
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No need to apologize. Point still remains the same if I were responding to you or someone else. Was more general that this OP and thread is pure garbage and there are unfortunately too many dumb people that will look at this and get all riled up. I agree the issue is politicians who have somehow gained wealth inexcusably. The OP should have listed them instead. Problem is, there probably aren’t enough of them and they also would not have the staggering wealth of the people mentioned
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Federal prosecutor in NY ordered today to drop the case against Democrat

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Mayor Eric Adams so he can focus on helping with Trump’s important immigration, crack down agenda.

This is bad news guys.

The president cannot/should not be using criminal prosecution, or the lack of criminal prosecution, as a carrot and stick for favors.

The prosecutor can agree, she can refuse to enforce it and be terminated, or she can resign.

This order was given before there is even a meeting between the prosecution and defense to assess the merits of the case so there are not many legitimate explanations for this, and it’s highly unusual.

This is not what we do here in America and this is completely on American. When people complain about attacks on Democratic norms, this is what they are referring to.

Also, it could be revived in the future or dropped permanently.
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jpzd33 said:
“Regardless, the bigger issue are the members who have no legitimate explanation for their wealth prior to government service”

Cause this list really doesn’t have any. Warren being the 1 exception, though not really as her net worth was vastly exaggerated
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My comment wasn't specifically for the list, but the overall issue. I thought that was clear in the context of the post (use of "bigger issue" and the word "members" vs "those listed") I was responding to. But, apologies if it wasn't.
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TivoliDawg said:
I think all information requires context.

As I stated elsewhere, claiming that the governor of Illinois is a multibillionaire and trying to frame that as a bad thing is weird. He comes from a billionaire family and is of course a billionaire himself.

But listing him with Congress people who are reported to have done, illicit trading, is trying to imply that somehow his gains are ill-gotten. Most readers are not gonna know who he is or take the time to Google him.

Also, Nancy Pelosi‘s husband is a super rich hedge fund guy. So to say that her net worth is over 200 million, when the vast majority of that is his net worth is also misleading.

Again, a news organization wouldn’t do that, but people on Twitter will post anything. And news organizations have their own problems with slant.
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I don't disagree. But, specifically on Pelosi...she's a good example of the problem: Family members potentially making trades based on her info. She's certainly not the worst (it's a bipartisan problem), but there are numerous members of Congress that consistently succeed in the stock market at rates much higher than the public.
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Lava-Man said:
I neither made the list nor shared the original tweet...and I think most of what I posted in this thread doesn't disagree with you. So, not sure why you quoted me? 🤷‍♂️
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“Regardless, the bigger issue are the members who have no legitimate explanation for their wealth prior to government service”

Cause this list really doesn’t have any. Warren being the 1 exception, though not really as her net worth was vastly exaggerated
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Italy Recs

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Me and my wife are taking a trip to Italy for our anniversary. We’re flying into Milan, going to lake Como for 2 nights, Venice 2 nights, Florence 2 nights, and Rome 2 nights.

Here’s the main things we have scheduled:

- St. Mark’s Basilica and Doge’s Palace in Venice
- Accademia Gallery tour in Florence
- Vatican, Sistine Chapel in Rome
- Colosseum and Forum in Rome

My main question is if anyone has any food recs that are absolutely can’t miss? We don’t want to miss a spot that requires a reservation. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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jpzd33 said:
Elizabeth Warren has a net worth of $8m, not $67, and is the only one who gained true wealth from being a politician(book deals and such)… Schumer is worth 1m. So not accurate again. McConnell’s wife comes from ridiculous $$. Prizker is the heir to Hyatt Hotel fortune. Burgum sold a tech co to Microsoft for 1b 30 years.

It is a dumb list intended to rile up stupid uninformed people
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I neither made the list nor shared the original tweet...and I think most of what I posted in this thread doesn't disagree with you. So, not sure why you quoted me? 🤷‍♂️
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Lava-Man said:
  • I think "outing" members with explainable independent wealth outside of government service is stupid
  • It's not exactly "outing" when it's publicly available information of supposed public servants
  • Some of the wealth is only "explainable" by legal modern-day bribery/money laundering schemes like ridiculous book deals
  • If we shed light & turn off the "join congress & get rich!" schemes, getting Congress to pass term limit legislation would be much easier...simply limiting terms doesn't fully solve the problem

So, I disagree that "outing" information like this is a bad thing. Could it be presented better & in more useful ways? Absolutely
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I think all information requires context.

As I stated elsewhere, claiming that the governor of Illinois is a multibillionaire and trying to frame that as a bad thing is weird. He comes from a billionaire family and is of course a billionaire himself.

But listing him with Congress people who are reported to have done, illicit trading, is trying to imply that somehow his gains are ill-gotten. Most readers are not gonna know who he is or take the time to Google him.

Also, Nancy Pelosi‘s husband is a super rich hedge fund guy. So to say that her net worth is over 200 million, when the vast majority of that is his net worth is also misleading.

Again, a news organization wouldn’t do that, but people on Twitter will post anything. And news organizations have their own problems with slant.
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