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This is where, for the life of me I can't understand.
I can't stand Biden, but this IS NOT ABOUT POLICY!
Vote the son of a gun out in 24 for God's sake!
You (not you personally) cannot try to steal an election and trash all federal agencies, courts, judges, and just norms in general just because your guy doesn't win!
I am almost 61 years old, and I am afraid this country will be this divided for the rest of my life over A F'N LIE.
I am truly sorry you can't see that, but that's your right.
Believe me, this is not some personal attack. I hope I am better than many others on here in that regard.
I hope you know that.
Bottom line, we will agree to disagree.
Have a good evening.
Let me tell you something you might find crazy coming from a liberal. I agree with your concerns about Biden's capacity to do the job. I don't agree that there is some policy Armageddon going on (hardly any major laws have even been passed due to the stalemate in Washington). But I do agree that a president needs to be minimally aware of what the hell is happening. And I'm not confident that is the case with Biden. I have even considered seriously that I might vote for DeSantis over him. And I don't agree with DeSantis on almost anything. And I've never voted for a Republican in my life. BUT I would vote for a corpse over Trump. The point Mitchell is making is that Trump is fundamentally opposed to our very country. Anyone that supports him, hates America or is clueless.
 
Let me tell you something you might find crazy coming from a liberal. I agree with your concerns about Biden's capacity to do the job. I don't agree that there is some policy Armageddon going on (hardly any major laws have even been passed due to the stalemate in Washington). But I do agree that a president needs to be minimally aware of what the hell is happening. And I'm not confident that is the case with Biden. I have even considered seriously that I might vote for DeSantis over him. And I don't agree with DeSantis on almost anything. And I've never voted for a Republican in my life. BUT I would vote for a corpse over Trump. The point Mitchell is making is that Trump is fundamentally opposed to our very country. Anyone that supports him, hates America or is clueless.
I think your post is a perfect description of why some do support him. Others would no matter what, but why I would over Biden. It is a good post. I get the worries about trump. Totally. But I think Biden is the bigger issue for the country. It is a choice between two candidates. You have to choose imo. Both have very big flaws. I could literally repeat the same sentence to you about Biden that ends your post. Only reason I didn’t give it a like. I neither hate America or believe I am clueless. I do hope another candidate finds a way to beat trump in the primary. But if not, no way I vote for slojoe


More good news for the economy. This is the kind of bs that drives me crazy. And solidified my position
 
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Let me tell you something you might find crazy coming from a liberal. I agree with your concerns about Biden's capacity to do the job. I don't agree that there is some policy Armageddon going on (hardly any major laws have even been passed due to the stalemate in Washington). But I do agree that a president needs to be minimally aware of what the hell is happening. And I'm not confident that is the case with Biden. I have even considered seriously that I might vote for DeSantis over him. And I don't agree with DeSantis on almost anything. And I've never voted for a Republican in my life. BUT I would vote for a corpse over Trump. The point Mitchell is making is that Trump is fundamentally opposed to our very country. Anyone that supports him, hates America or is clueless.
I don’t support Trump but I don’t think he is fundamentally opposed to our country.

Arrogant, rich, womanizing, narcissistic , throw his friends under bus, lier - yes.

Fairly good with US policy abroad - yes

Good for US budget and economy - midland, spends to much but capital gains cut was wise

border security and crime - good

Court appointees - good

Cabinet - poor to fair, the good ones wouldn’t stick around because of his craziness

Played way outside the lines after he lost the election - yes

Someone I would like to hang around with - probably 5 minutes tops, perhaps zero

Most hated politician by the left in my lifetime- yes, which is somewhat strange as I suspect overall he is a moderate- social issues and spending a moderate for sure
 
I don’t support Trump but I don’t think he is fundamentally opposed to our country.

Arrogant, rich, womanizing, narcissistic , throw his friends under bus, lier - yes.

Fairly good with US policy abroad - yes

Good for US budget and economy - midland, spends to much but capital gains cut was wise

border security and crime - good

Court appointees - good

Cabinet - poor to fair, the good ones wouldn’t stick around because of his craziness

Played way outside the lines after he lost the election - yes

Someone I would like to hang around with - probably 5 minutes tops, perhaps zero

Most hated politician by the left in my lifetime- yes, which is somewhat strange as I suspect overall he is a moderate- social issues and spending a moderate for sure
He was a moderate at one time. On everything. Hell he was right leaning in a lot of ways. Biden has no clue what he is anymore. 94 he opposed sex education in elementary schools. Vehemently. Now he is ok with schools have a transgender express lane. No clue what he believes in anymore. Whatever his constituents tell him to.

Great post by the way.
 
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You seem to have omitted my point about systemic racism in your reply. Believing in that surely seems like undermining the core foundations of our country.

We've had plenty of conversations about violence over the years, and your stance seems to be that only a minute fraction of violence/looting in this country is committed by left-wing perpetrators. If you can't even properly attribute violence to the responsible entities, then we can't have a good faith debate. That's hardly a straw man argument.

As for Trump, I'll say the same thing I have said for...*checks notes*...7 years, and counting. If there's any concrete evidence of criminal activity, let's see it. But all we've had are false promises and kangaroo court investigations that your base eats up. Show me the evidence and I'll denounce Trump.

As for the other Trump points, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove. Neither call had any real shot of happening, and I don't think anyone with a brain actually believed it would.
Systemic racism is a broad term, so let me take a pass at defining it.

Examples include residential segregation, unfair lending practices and other barriers to home ownership and accumulating wealth, schools’ dependence on local property taxes, environmental injustice, biased policing and sentencing of men and boys of color, and voter suppression policies.

By that definition, yes, it absolutely still exists and the echoes of the far more severe versions of all of the above that were more prevalent in the past are still impacting people today.

Regarding violence, I stand by my contention that the you seem to be attributing a political stance to career criminals and gang members who are not participants in the political process and as such should not be counted as part of either party. If I am wrong, please help me understand how.

Do you really feel confident at this point that Trump is not deeply concerned about the NY case, the GA vote fraud case, the documents case or the J6 case? It will continue to take some time because Trump had protections from indictment while president and these other cases keep expanding, but I'd be willing to make a friendly wager that Trump eventually ends up with at least one felony conviction. What say you?
 
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He was a moderate at one time. On everything. Hell he was right leaning in a lot of ways. Biden has no clue what he is anymore. 94 he opposed sex education in elementary schools. Vehemently. Now he is ok with schools have a transgender express lane. No clue what he believes in anymore. Whatever his constituents tell him to.

Great post by the way.
One small comment and then I have to get back to work.

'94 was nearly thirty years ago and was before widespread access to the internet. That change alone would be a reasonable argument for lowering the age of sex ed. When I was a kid, the most you could hope to see was some dad's Playboy. Between online porn and hundreds of channels of hard R-rated cable content, It's an entirely different deal today.
 
Please share any supporting evidence, Biden related or not, that suggests that the Delaware Court of Chancery has a liberal bias. More than half of the companies listed on the NYSE and the NASDAQ (and as I've said, 66% of the Fortune 500) are headquartered in DE in large part because of the national reputation of the DE Court of Chancery for fairness. The state's history as pro-business goes back two hundred years. The numbers don't lie and all I've heard for your argument is "Biden is from there". Do better.

I acknowledged all media is biased, several times. But do I think Rachel Madow is obsequiously supporting Biden on air while saying in private that he is evil and destructive for the country? No. There is a big difference.

Again, if Trump has been defamed, he should sue. It will never happen because discovery would be a nightmare.

The violent crime rate in NY is one of the best in the country for a major city. Bragg is plenty able to do two or more things at the same time. Seems he is doing his job just fine.

"In a statement, Bragg clapped back, pointing out that violent crime in New York is actually down since he took office — and lower than the major cities in Jim Jordan's own state. "NYPD data show shootings and homicides are down in New York City for the first quarter of this year ... Virtually every major crime category is lower in Manhattan now than it was last year (as of 4/2/23): murders are down 14%, shootings are down 14%, burglaries are down 21%, and robberies are down 8%."
Delaware has laws that protect liability from piercing the corporate vail of an LLC and extending to the individual owners of the Company. That is a well known fact and why every LLC gets incorporated there.

Also has zero correlation to civil or criminal cases, judges, or juries. It is simply a risk mitigation protecting individuals in contract disputes between two parties doing business together.

Also I would challenge you to speak to any NYC resident of any political affiliation and ask them if crime has become a big problem in the last several years, compared to before Deblasio was Mayor, and ask them what they think of Bragg.
 
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It's worse than that. He's another one of those "Reagan Conservatives" who will gladly screw the rest of us over by holding his nose, stomping his feet and refusing to vote for a GOP candidate he doesn't fully agree with.

Meanwhile, a significantly worse Dem candidate -- one backed by his galvanized "vote blue no matter who" base spanning the party spectrum -- wins the election, and now we get a politician who shares NONE of the values those Reagan Conservatives claim to hold.

People like that are about a half-step below the leftists on the "awfulness" meter.
Wrong again.....but that's nothing new.
Never voted for a dem in my life.
Voted for Trump in 16, and did not vote in 20 because I did not want either one.
As for 24, I will vote for ANY rep except trump.
If he is the Rep nominee, I will not vote or very possibly for the first time in my life vote Dem.
If the Rep are stupid enough to make trump the nominee, they WILL LOSE.....and loose bigly.....as trump would say.
BTW.....if you are a Trumper, you should never bring up the word "values"......js
 
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One small comment and then I have to get back to work.

'94 was nearly thirty years ago and was before widespread access to the internet. That change alone would be a reasonable argument for lowering the age of sex ed. When I was a kid, the most you could hope to see was some dad's Playboy. Between online porn and hundreds of channels of hard R-rated cable content, It's an entirely different deal today.
Then restrict access on their phone. Their computer. Be a good parent. Don’t ask the teachers to do it for you. I have four. I am not giving any of them full access to that. Until they are of age. Same way your mom or dad wouldn’t let you watch porky’s or ten when you are a kid. There isn’t a reasonable argument for going that young. Certain no reason for an elementary school kid to think they need to transitions. Jesus man. Kids are going to find stuff out anyway. That is something as old as time. At the same time, do you believe it is a good idea to let your five year old to watch one of todays horror movies. Hell no. Not if you want them to sleep again.

The basis for the argument is still the same. They aren’t mature enough to process the info. Same reason why you don’t legalize weed for children. Or alcohol. I guess it is ok for 13 year olds to marry. What does it matter how old the man or woman is either? Why is it a problem for a 13 year old to have relations with a 30 year old. Yet no issue if you are 37 and with a 20 year old. So as a young kid you are ready for transitioning, but not ready for a relationship. Still don’t see the problem.
 
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Wrong again.....but that's nothing new.
Never voted for a dem in my life.
Voted for Trump in 16, and did not vote in 20 because I did not want either one.
As for 24, I will vote for ANY rep except trump.
If he is the Rep nominee, I will not vote or very possibly for the first time in my life vote Dem.
If the Rep are stupid enough to make trump the nominee, they WILL LOSE.....and loose bigly.....as trump would say.
BTW.....if you are a Trumper, you should never bring up the word "values"......js

Which part of my comment was wrong? I'd encourage you to actually read what I posted.

I never accused you of previously voting for a Democrat, I simply said your refusal to vote for the Republican enables the Democrat (who carries values in near-complete contrast to those of a "Reagan Conservative") to win the election.
 
Which part of my comment was wrong? I'd encourage you to actually read what I posted.

I never accused you of previously voting for a Democrat, I simply said your refusal to vote for the Republican enables the Democrat (who carries values in near-complete contrast to those of a "Reagan Conservative") to win the election.
Anyone but trump and I will vote just like I have since 1980 (except a non vote in 20).......Rep.
 
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Howard Kurtz will cover it on his Sunday media show. He is really good and has covered it far last 2 weeks. Only fox show I watch every week. He and Brett Baier are 2 of best in all of network news trying to shoot down the middle.
Howard was on Fox last night. They were discussing the settlement and seems they settled it out of court.
 
Delaware has laws that protect liability from piercing the corporate vail of an LLC and extending to the individual owners of the Company. That is a well known fact and why every LLC gets incorporated there.

Also has zero correlation to civil or criminal cases, judges, or juries. It is simply a risk mitigation protecting individuals in contract disputes between two parties doing business together.

Also I would challenge you to speak to any NYC resident of any political affiliation and ask them if crime has become a big problem in the last several years, compared to before Deblasio was Mayor, and ask them what they think of Bragg.
You are correct regarding the Chancery court. That’s my mistake.

I’ll stand behind my position in the original debate, which is that the fact that Joe Biden is from Delaware played no role in Fox’s willingness to settle based on an expectation of excessively biased treatment from the judge and jury. For every potential juror in DE who hates Fox and Trump, you can easily find ones who are Trump true believers.

My wife and I have lived in NY and we both still know plenty of people there. Crime has been difficult but that is true in every city over the last five years. NY’s crime rate and trend lines compared to other major cities makes for a decent story for Bragg to tell.

Personally, I’m glad to be out of Atlanta and settled in the Lowcountry. It’s a big win for my family and we definitely feel safer here.
 
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You are correct regarding the Chancery court. That’s my mistake.

I’ll stand behind my position in the original debate, which is that the fact that Joe Biden is from Delaware played no role in Fox’s willingness to settle based on an expectation of excessively biased treatment from the judge and jury. For every potential juror in DE who hates Fox and Trump, you can easily find ones who are Trump true believers.

My wife and I have lived in NY and we both still know plenty of people there. Crime has been difficult but that is true in every city over the last five years. NY’s crime rate and trend lines compared to other major cities makes for a decent story for Bragg to tell.

Personally, I’m glad to be out of Atlanta and settled in the Lowcountry. It’s a big win for my family and we definitely feel safer here.
Whoops. Lol. Depends on where it is held in deleware. Last election went 300000 to 200000 left. Dover and Wilmington are hard core blue. Bottom of the state is more rural. Those are the stats. Actually not as bad as I thought.

All the major cities crime rates are absolutely up. The more they become blue dominant. Glad you got you a safe place in the low country.
 
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You are correct regarding the Chancery court. That’s my mistake.

I’ll stand behind my position in the original debate, which is that the fact that Joe Biden is from Delaware played no role in Fox’s willingness to settle based on an expectation of excessively biased treatment from the judge and jury. For every potential juror in DE who hates Fox and Trump, you can easily find ones who are Trump true believers.

My wife and I have lived in NY and we both still know plenty of people there. Crime has been difficult but that is true in every city over the last five years. NY’s crime rate and trend lines compared to other major cities makes for a decent story for Bragg to tell.

Personally, I’m glad to be out of Atlanta and settled in the Lowcountry. It’s a big win for my family and we definitely feel safer here.
Fair enough on all. Welcome…
 
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Whoops. Lol. Depends on where it is held in deleware. Last election went 300000 to 200000 left. Dover and Wilmington are hard core blue. Bottom of the state is more rural. Those are the stats. Actually not as bad as I thought.

All the major cities crime rates are absolutely up. The more they become blue dominant. Glad you got you a safe place in the low country.
Fair enough on all. Welcome…
Wilmington is very much a corporate town. I have family there and I can promise you there are plenty of conservatives to be found.

My wife is from Beaufort so our move was an easy one. Our kids are attending the same school my wife and her brother attended when they were kids and i grew up on a farm in VA so even after thirty five years of big city living, the transition has been a natural one.

Now if I can just get used to the bugs and summer heat I'll be all set. It's going to take a while...
 
You seem to have omitted my point about systemic racism in your reply. Believing in that surely seems like undermining the core foundations of our country.

We've had plenty of conversations about violence over the years, and your stance seems to be that only a minute fraction of violence/looting in this country is committed by left-wing perpetrators. If you can't even properly attribute violence to the responsible entities, then we can't have a good faith debate. That's hardly a straw man argument.

As for Trump, I'll say the same thing I have said for...*checks notes*...7 years, and counting. If there's any concrete evidence of criminal activity, let's see it. But all we've had are false promises and kangaroo court investigations that your base eats up. Show me the evidence and I'll denounce Trump.

As for the other Trump points, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove. Neither call had any real shot of happening, and I don't think anyone with a brain actually believed it would.
Did someone mention systemic racism?

 
Did someone mention systemic racism?

That is awful he put that in writing. It is an issue. Even here in Athens. I have customers that are petrified of being pulled over without an insurance cards. You can imagine who that is. They are targeted in Athens regularly. Our da has the last name Gonzalez. They still are targeted. Pretty sure she doesn’t have it in writing. Although she is another Democrat da that has forgotten that putting away criminals is her job. She is being sued now for being awful at her job. Sounds like Bragg.

This is a terrible thing to put in writing. Now, I got pissed at police for targeting my customers. One person had their car impounded for no reason. The police apologized. No fine was issued. I asked what is the problem. He said so many drive uninsured they have no choice. Illegals. You can call this systemic racism. It certainly ticked me off. Then a police officer I spoke with about it said, you ought to see how mad someone gets when they are hit with someone with no coverage. Or how many hit and runs they encounter.

This sucks. But I bet there is a reason this person was brazen enough to put it in writing. I bet if he stated some statistics as to why, the legal population including Mexicans, would not be all that angry. I could be wrong.
 
That is awful he put that in writing. It is an issue. Even here in Athens. I have customers that are petrified of being pulled over without an insurance cards. You can imagine who that is. They are targeted in Athens regularly. Our da has the last name Gonzalez. They still are targeted. Pretty sure she doesn’t have it in writing. Although she is another Democrat da that has forgotten that putting away criminals is her job. She is being sued now for being awful at her job. Sounds like Bragg.

This is a terrible thing to put in writing. Now, I got pissed at police for targeting my customers. One person had their car impounded for no reason. The police apologized. No fine was issued. I asked what is the problem. He said so many drive uninsured they have no choice. Illegals. You can call this systemic racism. It certainly ticked me off. Then a police officer I spoke with about it said, you ought to see how mad someone gets when they are hit with someone with no coverage. Or how many hit and runs they encounter.

This sucks. But I bet there is a reason this person was brazen enough to put it in writing. I bet if he stated some statistics as to why, the legal population including Mexicans, would not be all that angry. I could be wrong.
I agree it's complicated. I know someone who was involved in an accident with an uninsured driver and it was a nightmare.

I think the issue with this example is that it's not about the initial engagement by LEOs, it's that the DA is taking a different and more punitive approach to plea deals/sentencing based on race. Regardless of the statistics regarding what percentage of crimes are committed by what race, once someone has been charged they should be treated the same as anyone else with the same set of contributing circumstances. Anything else is racism, right?
 
I agree it's complicated. I know someone who was involved in an accident with an uninsured driver and it was a nightmare.

I think the issue with this example is that it's not about the initial engagement by LEOs, it's that the DA is taking a different and more punitive approach to plea deals/sentencing based on race. Regardless of the statistics regarding what percentage of crimes are committed by what race, once someone has been charged they should be treated the same as anyone else with the same set of contributing circumstances. Anything else is racism, right?
It is racism for sure. But systemic racism, I am not so sure. This is the great debate with Leo’s as well like you said. It is targeting a race. No argument there. It is a catch 22. I can see why other members of the community may want a da to send a message if this is happening at a high rate. (By being more punitive) It happens here too in the bluest city in ga. All I am saying.
 


I feel the need to keep you honest (haha, well as much as I can)here. I love around the five minute mark where schiff says it clearly comes from the kremlin. He is head of the intelligence committee. Lol. What a damn oxymoron. They just don’t get held accountable. Ever. Fox News lied and paid for it. The way it should be. 25 minutes of people(Biden, politicians and reporters) lying in the msm. Not sure why people think they lie.


While you watch, drink along with your buddies everytime they say classic disinformation!! And circle jerk in celebration to the 4 trillion in new taxes we will all pay next year. Maybe they can find a way to give that money away too.
Makes me sick the Dems and MSM lie, cheat and defame people with lies and nothing happens to them. Time to bring down the hammer on all of them. It makes me sick what those scum have done to our country.
 
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I don’t support Trump but I don’t think he is fundamentally opposed to our country.

Arrogant, rich, womanizing, narcissistic , throw his friends under bus, lier - yes.

Fairly good with US policy abroad - yes

Good for US budget and economy - midland, spends to much but capital gains cut was wise

border security and crime - good

Court appointees - good

Cabinet - poor to fair, the good ones wouldn’t stick around because of his craziness

Played way outside the lines after he lost the election - yes

Someone I would like to hang around with - probably 5 minutes tops, perhaps zero

Most hated politician by the left in my lifetime- yes, which is somewhat strange as I suspect overall he is a moderate- social issues and spending a moderate for sure
I would vote for Boom Uga mascot over Biden or any Dem at this point. Trump loves our country and his policies put America first. You may not like him personally but his policies are good for America. Biden and Dems policies are destroying us. China will walk in without weapons and take us over if we continue to elect idiots in DC.
 
I would vote for Boom Uga mascot over Biden or any Dem at this point. Trump loves our country and his policies put America first. You may not like him personally but his policies are good for America. Biden and Dems policies are destroying us. China will walk in without weapons and take us over if we continue to elect idiots in DC.
Rule number #1–you have to be “likable” to win an election. You can be the smartest person and have the best ideas (not saying that Trump are any of those things), but if people don’t like you, you’re not winning. Trump had his chance and has failed miserably.
 
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I would vote for Boom Uga mascot over Biden or any Dem at this point. Trump loves our country and his policies put America first. You may not like him personally but his policies are good for America. Biden and Dems policies are destroying us. China will walk in without weapons and take us over if we continue to elect idiots in DC.
If he truly loves his country more than himself, trying to steal the presidency from the rightful choice of the people and continuing to lie about it to this day is one very strange way to show it. :rolleyes:
 
This is one issue that pisses me off.
It has so divided this country, friends, and even families and they knew it was a lie all along.
The sad thing is there are people I know that will never believe the truth because trump still says it was stolen......not under oath of course.
To still be on the trump train, you really do have to be pretty stupid.
The fact that he is still the front runner in the Rep party is beyond crazy.
Get it........but honestly, given the two options (Biden/Trump).......would vote for Trump all day long, maybe even more than 1 time.

Probably won't see those two options this time around though, slim chance imo.
 
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Get it........but honestly, given the two options (Biden/Trump).......would vote for Trump all day long, maybe even more than 1 time.

Probably won't see those two options this time around though, slim chance imo.
Oh, I believe you.
 
Makes me sick the Dems and MSM lie, cheat and defame people with lies and nothing happens to them. Time to bring down the hammer on all of them. It makes me sick what those scum have done to our country.
If he truly loves his country more than himself, trying to steal the presidency from the rightful choice of the people and continuing to lie about it to this day is one very strange way to show it. :rolleyes:
If I believed trump was trying to overturn the election for anyone but himself, I might have a different comeback here. Doc, I get the anger. Feel the same way. Elections have consequences. I think it is hard for the right to feel like will does. And others here. If I could go back in time to undo, all the horrible policy changes put down by Biden I would. To stop the madness. He knows things would have been better in this country had the election had a different outcome. He will take the drop the soap in the shower policies over and over. And justify it with a defense of democracy and our system. Despite the fact, that our system worked like it was supposed to. Even when said former president was totally unhappy about it.

What he doesn’t want to admit. And others don’t. If trump somehow wins the nomination, and then the election. He hasn’t seen anything like he will see from his brethren. They will attack our system and everything our republic has in place to respond. They may do it if someone other than trump wins. But if trump wins, they will do ten times more to stop the transfer.
 
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If I believed trump was trying to overturn the election for anyone but himself, I might have a different comeback here. Doc, I get the anger. Feel the same way. Elections have consequences. I think it is hard for the right to feel like will does. And others here. If I could go back in time to undo, all the horrible policy changes put down by Biden I would. To stop the madness. He knows things would have been better in this country had the election had a different outcome. He will take the drop the soap in the shower policies over and over. And justify it with a defense of democracy and our system. Despite the fact, that our system worked like it was supposed to. Even when said former president was totally unhappy about it.

What he doesn’t want to admit. And others don’t. If trump somehow wins the nomination, and then the election. He hasn’t seen anything like he will see from his brethren. They will attack our system and everything our republic has in place to respond. They may do it if someone other than trump wins. But if trump wins, they will do ten times more to stop the transfer.
Ah, so the Dems will steal the election in 2024 just like they were accused of doing in 2020? That’s funny. You would think anyone who voted for Trump would be too embarrassed at this point to bring up the topic of stolen elections, but here we are.

And while the Republican Party is currently doing a great job of self-immolating, I will be truly stunned if Trump ends up the nominee. If he does, even “Weekend at Bernie’s” Biden will beat him.

 
Ah, so the Dems will steal the election in 2024 just like they were accused of doing in 2020? That’s funny. You would think anyone who voted for Trump would be too embarrassed at this point to bring up the topic of stolen elections, but here we are.

And while the Republican Party is currently doing a great job of self-immolating, I will be truly stunned if Trump ends up the nominee. If he does, even “Weekend at Bernie’s” Biden will beat him.

That isn’t what I said. I said if trump wins, they will be at the capital doing much worse than happened a few years ago. The left will do anything not to allow him to be president. And it is a big if. I don’t think he will beat Biden right now. The economy may change that tune here shortly, but as of today. I also don’t think he ends up the nominee.

If he does and wins, all hell will break loose. Way worse than 1-6-21. They will try to interrupt the transfer of the office. Both sides are always trying to steal elections. Like baseball. Looking for an edge. Naive to think otherwise.
 
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He was a moderate at one time. On everything. Hell he was right leaning in a lot of ways. Biden has no clue what he is anymore. 94 he opposed sex education in elementary schools. Vehemently. Now he is ok with schools have a transgender express lane. No clue what he believes in anymore. Whatever his constituents tell him to.

Great post by the way.
Joe believes and spouts whatever the Obama Cabal tells him to and puts on the teleprompter....
 
Ah, so the Dems will steal the election in 2024 just like they were accused of doing in 2020? That’s funny. You would think anyone who voted for Trump would be too embarrassed at this point to bring up the topic of stolen elections, but here we are.

And while the Republican Party is currently doing a great job of self-immolating, I will be truly stunned if Trump ends up the nominee. If he does, even “Weekend at Bernie’s” Biden will beat him.

One other point. While you are up on the pedestal. You know Biden already got caught cheating to try to win an election right. Trump hasn’t been proven of anything. Yet! Biden actually got caught and was booted. Lol. Maybe that will stink up the air a little bit up there for you.
 
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If I believed trump was trying to overturn the election for anyone but himself, I might have a different comeback here. Doc, I get the anger. Feel the same way. Elections have consequences. I think it is hard for the right to feel like will does. And others here. If I could go back in time to undo, all the horrible policy changes put down by Biden I would. To stop the madness. He knows things would have been better in this country had the election had a different outcome. He will take the drop the soap in the shower policies over and over. And justify it with a defense of democracy and our system. Despite the fact, that our system worked like it was supposed to. Even when said former president was totally unhappy about it.

What he doesn’t want to admit. And others don’t. If trump somehow wins the nomination, and then the election. He hasn’t seen anything like he will see from his brethren. They will attack our system and everything our republic has in place to respond. They may do it if someone other than trump wins. But if trump wins, they will do ten times more to stop the transfer.
If Trump should somehow win in 24....the riots at the Capital and Blue cities will make the Summer of Love look like a Church picnic.....
 
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One small comment and then I have to get back to work.

'94 was nearly thirty years ago and was before widespread access to the internet. That change alone would be a reasonable argument for lowering the age of sex ed. When I was a kid, the most you could hope to see was some dad's Playboy. Between online porn and hundreds of channels of hard R-rated cable content, It's an entirely different deal today.
Yep...it's AL Gores fault for inventing the internet...lol...Will...we actually agree on something for a change.
 
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