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Time to accept reality!

We are far closer to an nfl model than we are to the college model we grew up with. That being said it’s time to adapt as fans. Bitching about a loss is futile. There are 10 or more teams that could be champs. Like the nfl - going undefeated will be next to impossible, especially in the SEC. Goal is to make the playoffs just like the NFL. Anything can happen from there. Now let’s make Sanford electric this Saturday and show the world we are a playoff team.

Playoff Question: IF we win out, are y’all confident we will get to host a first round game now?

I always thought we would, but now, I’m not so sure.

IMO, the following things are likely to happen:

-Penn St wins out and finishes with 1 loss and stays ranked ahead of us
-OSU/Oregon loser will stay ranked ahead of us (I think it will be Oregon, but regardless, I believe they would still keep OSU ranked ahead of us)
-Bama and Ole Miss both win out and whichever one (or both) doesn’t go to SEC Championship stays ranked ahead of us (tbh, though, I have put zero thought into who makes the SEC championship at this point. For all I know, it could still be us).
-Miami beats Clemson/SMU for ACC title, finishes with 1 loss, and finishes ranked ahead of us. (Wouldn’t be surprised to see Miami lose this either)

IMO, we’re looking at being the 8 or 9 seed. A LOT of football left but just curious what everyone’s thoughts are.

Time to pay the piper?

Is it possible this year is just a season where the check came due? We’ve had massive coaching turnover and stacks of guys drafted - two normal things with elite level teams. In a different era, you could stack talent on the bench and “plug and play” the next star.

Maybe in a portal era (moreso than NIL in my opinion, but both contribute) teams will just be much more likely to have a “very good” year every few years before jumping back up to elite for a few years. We all hate our season based on how it compares to expectations, but objectively, this is still a very good year.

The "talent" argument...

"We don't have talent on offense"...here's who we are playing/rotating:

Beck: 4 star/Top 200
Etienne: 4 star/Top 100
Frazier: 4 star/Top 100 (#1 2024 RB per Saban)
B. Robinson: 5 star/Top 100
Delp: 4 star/Top 100
Luckie: 4 star/Top 100
Greene: 4 star/Top 100
Ratledge: 5 star/Top 100
Wilson: 3 Star
Fairchild: 4 star/Top 100(247), Top 200(Rivals)
Morris: 4 star/Top 100
Freeling: 4 star/Top 100
Truss: 3 Star (Rivals), 4 star/Top 200 (247)
Bell: 3 Star
A. Smith: 4 star/Top 150(rivals) Top 100 (247)
Lovett: 4 star(HS recruit)/#1 Portal WR (transfer)
Evans: 4 star/Top 200

Any Positive Notes From Yesterday?

Struggling hard to find one positive note about the game to make today less depressing.

Only remotely good thing I can think of is that we immediately get to try to prove ourselves next Saturday. There will definitely still be big question marks if we win, but I’m glad we don’t have to watch a first half struggle against UMass before putting our season on the line against Tenn
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Old Take Searels Data

I'm big on looking at a team and how they perform in a certain area the year before a coach gets there and then comparing how they fare once that coach arrives. With an OL coach, I look at the production of the run game and sacks allowed in the passing game.

I use cfbstats.com all the time and they only go back to 2009 but that's enough of a snapshot to figure out strengths and weaknesses for this exercise.

2010 Texas (before Searels)
4.17 ypc
18 sacks allowed


2011 Texas
4.47 ypc
28 sacks allowed

2012 Texas
4.60 ypc
16 sacks allowed

2013 Texas
4.44 ypc

16 sacks allowed

2013 Va Tech (before Searels)
3.16 ypc
33 sacks allowed


2014 Va Tech
3.79 ypc
34 sacks allowed

2015 Va Tech
3.8 ypc

34 sacks allowed

2015 Miami (before Searels)
3.68 ypc
19 sacks allowed

2016 Miami
4.54 ypc
25 sacks allowed

2017 Miami
5.05 ypc
29 sacks allowed

2018 Miami
5.20 ypc

27 sacks allowed

2018 UNC (before Searels)
5.28 ypc
10 sacks allowed

2019 UNC
4.63 ypc
37 sacks allowed

2020 UNC
5.75 ypc
34 sacks allowed

2021 UNC
5.41 ypc

49 sacks allowed

May it never be that I am watching a game at Sanford Stadium and,

at the end, Dawg fans rush the field in a frenzy, tear down the goalposts, and march them around campus. That message to the world is that we are a bunch of losers, and we FINALLY beat a good team. At Georgia, we are not particularly honored to beat any team. We expect to win every game played between the hedges and keep our goalposts and $250k.

How does Kirby sit and watch the same offense over and over and over and not demand change from Mike?

He sees the same thing we, Greg McElroy, Lane Kiffin, and anyone with eyeballs sees.

Yet EVERY game this season has been the exact same plan every time.

How are we 9 games in and still seeing the same horrific gameplan/gameplay from the offense?

How has Kirby not demanded change already in the plan?

Fired from Colorado State for being so bad that he , for example, admitted he was out coached by the Hawaii coaches, …

Fired by Harsin after one season for being bad at Auburn. (Harsin of all people could see that Bobo was not good and fired him with two years left on his contract.)

Fired after one season as South Carolina’s OC.

But suddenly he is elite because he learned some things from Monken.




And we hired him. With his acumen, should he not have been running rings around these teams? He is elite. A top 10 in the country offensive mind. Certainly worthy of being the OC Of a team with national championship aspirations.

A look at OL roster

17 OL listed. Breakdown by class: 1 Sr, 1RSr, ZERO Jrs, 3RSJrs, 1SOPH, !RSoph, 7Fr, 3RFr. With the injuries to Tate, Wilson and Morris throughout the year this becomes glaring. Well over half the roster is Fr or RFr. Question becomes are we not developing the young guys or are they just not ready for the SEC? Greene and Freeling are the only Sophs who play, and no freshmen. We have not developed any depth, thus we're having to play injured or recovering players. I would think at least some of the freshmen at this stage of the season would be better than severely limited starters. The lack of somewhat experienced sophs and juniors is killing us!

Coordinators questions/musings...

I get the Bobo bashing and think we can get better options, but what about Schumann? We know Bobo can create high performance offenses (see 2023, 2014, 2012) IF he has quality enough pieces around the QB to make it hum (each of those years had talent at WR, RB, OL). We know we don't have that this year - whether from poor recruiting or injuries.

What about Schumann though? I know this is his first solo year calling the defense, but we've heard how much he is a rising star and how some fans fretted him getting poached to be head coach. However, his side of the ball has significantly regressed under his solo tutelage while having an abundance of talent at most every position. Take yesterday: defense brings the hammer on the first Ole Miss drive, which is still part of the scripted series - which should be some a team's best performance, especially with a guy like Kiffin. Yet, Dart goes out and a freshman QB comes and the defense is just lost. This isn't going from one type QB to another - Dart and Simmons are similar style QBs. This has to be playcalling, right? And how many times this season has the offense finally gotten itself together (not yesterday) and then the defense just lets the other team march down the field? That feels like the old Grantham/Martinez days.

And my major concern about Buster's name being thrown about. I agree he, on a small sample size, seems to be a better playcaller / offensive designer than Bobo, but what about recruiting? This is a genuine question - not questioning him? When is the last time Buster brought in a top notch QB (not saying Bobo ever did... I've always thought the top tier QBs we signed during those days were more because of Richt)? In the 9 seasons of Kirby's tenure, we've had:
  • Fromm (ok college QB)
  • Fields (the one top-rated QB who was misused and transferred)
  • Mathis
  • JT Daniels (transfer and just ok college QB)
  • Stetson (major misevaluation by everyone including our staff which told him he would never be QB at Georgia - we lucked into this one due to his desire to play for the Dawgs)
  • Carson (good if he has top notch talent around him; mediocre to poor without that)

And I want to be clear, I know we've had high-ranked QB recruits by recruiting services. However, either we've been poor at development or the rating service mis-evaluated (where I lean, but also concerning that our staff also mis-evaluated). However, outside of Stetson, what QB have we had in the last 9 years, when the game was on the line and we needed to score for a win or start a comeback, that you thought, "we are still in this!". Stetson - yes. Anyone else? At least from 2001 until 2012, we had Greene, Shockley, Stafford, Murray.

Finally, I know we harp on Bobo and a few of us harp on Schumann, but could both be hindered by their position coaches? If the position coaches don't have their units performing, how can your gameplay as a coordinator work? Think about your profession life - if the managers of the teams beneath you underperform, there is very little you can do to be successful in the next tier up in the chain.

Bobo is dealing with a line coach who underwhelmed in his previous stint in Georgia (was Searls fired first time around, I can't remember); a WR coach who underwhelmed and seemed to be told "leave for another gig or get fired". As for the other two position coaches, he has a RB coach who is coaching RBs for the first time (he was WR coach at Tech and WKU - would we be better off if he was our QR coach?), but is considered a rising star; a TE coach who's well regarded. Schumann seems to be a little better off, but has had to deal with lots of change on his staff and we all know hiring is far from an exact science - I know when I've hired for my teams over the years, some people I thought were for-sure rockstars were far from that and some who I thought were going to be good, but not great, ended up being rockstars.

This all to say - should Kirby start with some of the position coaches? Or should he it be a larger shakeup with coordinators and the position coaches, even if in first season, who have underwhelmed? My major complaint about Richt is that he seemed to stay way too loyal to assistants over the years instead of shaking up staff like Saban used to do.
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