Bwahaha! FBI raided Orange Man's home

[poorpreacher]

Just a thought:

Why not call Trump, and say, "Have the documents back by 8-8-22, or we will get a search warrant and take them".

Maybe that happend and I haven't heard it. But, if this isn't political, a phone call seems like a better option than a raid.

 

[kckd]

Just a thought:

Why not call Trump, and say, "Have the documents back by 8-8-22, or we will get a search warrant and take them".

Maybe that happend and I haven't heard it. But, if this isn't political, a phone call seems like a better option than a raid.

Because he has routinely destroyed documents. This has been verified.

 

[willdup]

Just a thought:

Why not call Trump, and say, "Have the documents back by 8-8-22, or we will get a search warrant and take them".

Maybe that happend and I haven't heard it. But, if this isn't political, a phone call seems like a better option than a raid.

Seems that conversation may have already happened.

 

[Lady43]

It would require some very, very compelling evidence for Garland to seek and a judge to approve a No-knock warrant of a former President’s house. No doubt the gauntlet has been thrown.

Well, how about the Hildabeast FISA, completely false. When you have the FBI in your pocket it would be easy to get it done. Conservatives need to get off their duffs, get to the polls and do your job. If not, in a year and a half you will live in a socialist country. The Dems set a President in doing this, the good thing is that President Trump has taken on the challenge. He is the only person that could handle this much abuse. I feel so bad that it has come to this. CONSERVATIVES get to the VOTING BOOT.

 

[Lady43]

Because he has routinely destroyed documents. This has been verified.

Tell us where it was verified. Look at all that was verified about the Hildabeast and still nothing was done.

 

[kckd]

Tell us where it was verified. Look at all that was verified about the Hildabeast and still nothing was done.

And there ya go. This is football. Just the names changed. Might as well be the Vent.

 

[kckd]

Well, how about the Hildabeast FISA, completely false. When you have the FBI in your pocket it would be easy to get it done. Conservatives need to get off their duffs, get to the polls and do your job. If not, in a year and a half you will live in a socialist country. The Dems set a President in doing this, the good thing is that President Trump has taken on the challenge. He is the only person that could handle this much abuse. I feel so bad that it has come to this. CONSERVATIVES get to the VOTING BOOT.

Football!!!

 

[Lady43]

This might prevent Trump from running in 2024 but it will galvanize Republican voters. Maybe the Dems get what they want in taking out Trump but lose the WH in the process. JMO.

It won’t stop President Trump from running, he hasn’t been charged or convicted. He is a fighter. I truly hope it galvanizes conservatives. We are a year and a half away from socialism. This is how Communist countries handle things.
You liberals continue on 5he path that you are on and see what it gets you. President Trump had already given the FBI permission to see everything that he took from the White House. It’s is all for show to beat President Trump dowe.
I am nauseous this morning over this great injustice. Stand up Conservatives and take our country back from this radical base of socialism.

 

[CocoDawg]

Think we go a little further back to the riots, buildings burning, mass raids of department stores, and occcupation of city blocks. 1/6 paled in comparison

Nah…that’s just America.

Rioting as a result of the police murdered an unarmed black man on the block is nothing new.

 

[Uga_1DawG]

Agreed. Have preferred Desantis over Trump for awhile now. If Desantis gets the nomination I think it’s smooth sailing to the White House.

Do your homework. DeSantis is a zionist and part of the swamp............

 

[kckd]

Do your homework. DeSantis is a zionist and part of the swamp............

Well, this will be interesting. I hear tell he also has an ugly wife and his dad helped John H. shoot Reagan.

 

[stray]

Because he has routinely destroyed documents. This has been verified.

Yeah that’s it. He’s just really really slow at it, since he had these documents for 2 years.

 

[kckd]

Yeah that’s it. He’s just really really slow at it, since he had these documents for 2 years.

You don't know what he has or has not destroyed. A judge gave them the warrant. You have to give good reason to get one.

But I will go ahead and tell you where you stand.

If they find he committed a crime, you're gonna say it was all a setup. He did nothing wrong. Hillary, Hillary, blah, blah, blah!

If they find nothing to prosecute him for, you're gonna say what a sham. They should be ashamed. Blah, blah, blah....

Read you like a book. Like a Dick, Jane, Spot book.

 

[55dawg]

difference in kind

I knew that was coming. But all are traits of a banana a republic.

 

[willdup]

You don't know what he has or has not destroyed. A judge gave them the warrant. You have to give good reason to get one.

But I will go ahead and tell you where you stand.

If they find he committed a crime, you're gonna say it was all a setup. He did nothing wrong. Hillary, Hillary, blah, blah, blah!

If they find nothing to prosecute him for, you're gonna say what a sham. They should be ashamed. Blah, blah, blah....

Read you like a book. Like a Dick, Jane, Spot book.

The facts of the situation, which are yet to be made public, don’t matter in any way because there are literally no facts that will lead the Trumpists to ever reconsider their support.

 

[stray]

You don't know what he has or has not destroyed. A judge gave them the warrant. You have to give good reason to get one.

But I will go ahead and tell you where you stand.

If they find he committed a crime, you're gonna say it was all a setup. He did nothing wrong. Hillary, Hillary, blah, blah, blah!

If they find nothing to prosecute him for, you're gonna say what a sham. They should be ashamed. Blah, blah, blah....

Read you like a book. Like a Dick, Jane, Spot book.

Lol. Your projection is showing.

 

[willdup]

Lol. Your projection is showing.

 

[litedawg1968]

Either we are a nation of laws or we aren’t.

Funny, none of you know what evidence was used to secure the warrant or what was found during the raid, but you are all convinced it’s bullshit because poor Trump is just an honest man unfairly persecuted.

The American people will penalize the current administration if this was a political act and Garland know that all too well. He obviously feels he has the goods. I guess we will see with time.

You mean like the " Jan 6th Commission" had "The Goods"?

 

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[litedawg1968]

right - that's what I am saying - a woman's right to choose or not - no matter where you stand on it, affects everyone.

I don't believe that the love of Trump matches that. He's awful and we all know it even if some of you guys love him because he appeared to stick it to the swamp or whatever.

I have never thought Trump would serve a day in jail, because in this country, the wealthy and well connected will never see justice. So I agree this is shocking, but I feel certain that as cautious as Garland has been. As partisan as Wray has been, this would not happen if it were not serious for the Former President. open and shut - if he has documents he should not have, he cannot run for public office again. case closed.

I know you and I have had our disagreements, so I have decided to be more civil.

Seriously asking, how does a womans right to choose affect everyone? Im 54, not having any more children, dating a woman who has already had her kids as both of ours all all 21 and up. How does a womans right to choose effect me?

 

[litedawg1968]

I think there are people on both sides of the aisle, and a goodly part of the voting population, that remain fatigued from his last term and would like to see Trump sidelined from running again one way or the other but this had better be bigger than Trump sneaking off with some files and souvenirs and pissing off the Library of Congress.

Yes Don is a dick but he's an ex President dick and you don't call out the press and put on a big show kicking in the door to his house to recover an overdue library book. IF there's nothing of substance there then congratulations on the almost impossible task of making him look like a sympathetic figure and handing him a free ticket to launch another run at the office.

Thank you. Trump is an Orange Man with bad hair and poor communication skills, but at some point being a former POTUS should protect you from a power play like this. If he doesnt end up in jail , this is gonna backfire on the Dems like nothing weve ever seen.

On another note, The Dems must really think that they can beat Desantis, because this was a power move to get Trump out of the way.

 

[litedawg1968]

Because he has routinely destroyed documents. This has been verified.

Please tell me that you arent referring to the absurd Maggie Haberman claim that he flushed them down the toilet.

 

[litedawg1968]

The facts of the situation, which are yet to be made public, don’t matter in any way because there are literally no facts that will lead the Trumpists to ever reconsider their support.

Like damn near ever Conservative on this forum has said multiple times, if you break the law you should go to jail.

I just honestly do not believe that DJT would be dumb enough to break the law and give the Dems any satisfaction.

 

[nice marmot]

Thank you. Trump is an Orange Man with bad hair and poor communication skills, but at some point being a former POTUS should protect you from a power play like this. If he doesnt end up in jail , this is gonna backfire on the Dems like nothing weve ever seen.

On another note, The Dems must really think that they can beat Desantis, because this was a power move to get Trump out of the way.

Important note while we are blaming Democrats > Chris Wray is not a Democrat and, indeed, in the history of the FBI (8 Directors) never has a Director of the FBI been a Democrat.

 

[litedawg1968]

Important note while we are blaming Democrats > Chris Wray is not a Democrat and, indeed, in the history of the FBI (8 Directors) never has a Director of the FBI been a Democrat.

Ok but dont you agree that hes is being directed what to do by Dems? Does he answer to any Republicans?

 

[nice marmot]

Like damn near ever Conservative on this forum has said multiple times, if you break the law you should go to jail.

I just honestly do not believe that DJT would be dumb enough to break the law and give the Dems any satisfaction.

again, we suddenly think the FBI is a wing of the Democratic party?

also, what presidency were you watching? The whole point of Trump was to thumb one's nose at the law and not suffer consequences.

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn’t lose any voters, okay?” Trump said, mimicking firing a gun with his fingers. “It’s, like, incredible.”

 

[litedawg1968]

again, we suddenly think the FBI is a wing of the Democratic party?

also, what presidency were you watching? The whole point of Trump was to thumb one's nose at the law and not suffer consequences.

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn’t lose any voters, okay?” Trump said, mimicking firing a gun with his fingers. “It’s, like, incredible.”

Its certainly looking that way.

Also not sure if you remember, but HE LOST. Hes no longer the POTUS.

I cant wait for the day when Republicans start raiding Dem homes, it will be glorious. I would start at Nancys house and move Eastward.

 

[Lady43]

Because he has routinely destroyed documents. This has been verified.

Political persecution. If Republicans were pulling this shit on Obama the Democrats and their media would be losing their minds. This is Nazi level crap they are pulling.

So true, I hope this puts fight into the Republicans. We are going to need it fighting a Nazi like government in the USA, China is winning having Joe and Hunter in their pocket.

 

[willdup]

Like damn near ever Conservative on this forum has said multiple times, if you break the law you should go to jail.

I just honestly do not believe that DJT would be dumb enough to break the law and give the Dems any satisfaction.

The House minority leader seems to differ with your reasonable and consistent approach.



As a reminder, Clinton NSA advisor Sandy Berger, was investigated for removing five documents from a secure reading room and ultimately pled to two years of probation and a $50k fine. He also ended up relinquishing his law license.

Of what we know about the situation with Trump yesterday, it involves a lot more than five documents.

 

[nice marmot]

Ok but dont you agree that hes is being directed what to do by Dems? Does he answer to any Republicans?

The Investigators would have had to go to the Director, the Director probably made the case to DOJ and then he told the investigators to go get the warrant, a process which we will soon know, but could have been any judge. My guess is that the FBI (on behalf of the Naitonal Archives) is driving the train and I have a couple simple reasons I think that is so >

1) Garland is cautious. Up to last week people were just killing him for being slow on the draw. He's not some rabid partisan. It's funny to think of him plotting revenge but that's not what he's made of.
2) to the extent that all of you are riled up - and keep making the point that this is bad for Ds if it goes bad, I agree. It would be a huge risk to take for a party that doesn't handle risk all that well. The DNC is the roll over and play dead machine.

Finally, imho if some politico was calling the shots, this would have rolled out differently. Even calling it a "raid" is embracing the language of some sort of violation, when all that happened here was a warrant got served - and we know from reporting that Trump's lawyers were present when it was done and SS was notified.

But no question this is an extraordinary moment.

 

[Lady43]

again, we suddenly think the FBI is a wing of the Democratic party?

also, what presidency were you watching? The whole point of Trump was to thumb one's nose at the law and not suffer consequences.

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn’t lose any voters, okay?” Trump said, mimicking firing a gun with his fingers. “It’s, like, incredible.”

I can tell that you watch a lot of fake news. You need to Truly get an education. The Hildabeast paid for fake fisas is she in jail, she and Bill were suspected of murdering people that crossed them. The FBI is definitely in the far lefts pocket. I suppose you like the way is being run today. Hiring of 85,000 new IRS employees make you feel good. Probably to raise more money to cover Old Joes spending. Let’s let Hunter and Old Joe take more money from the Chinese. Why do you think they are trying to get rid of President Trump, they are scared to death of him, and will do anything to get him out of the picture. The good thing about him is that he is a fighter. he fights for this countr

 

[Lady43]

The Investigators would have had to go to the Director, the Director probably made the case to DOJ and then he told the investigators to go get the warrant, a process which we will soon know, but could have been any judge. My guess is that the FBI (on behalf of the Naitonal Archives) is driving the train and I have a couple simple reasons I think that is so >

1) Garland is cautious. Up to last week people were just killing him for being slow on the draw. He's not some rabid partisan. It's funny to think of him plotting revenge but that's not what he's made of.
2) to the extent that all of you are riled up - and keep making the point that this is bad for Ds if it goes bad, I agree. It would be a huge risk to take for a party that doesn't handle risk all that well. The DNC is the roll over and play dead machine.

Finally, imho if some politico was calling the shots, this would have rolled out differently. Even calling it a "raid" is embracing the language of some sort of violation, when all that happened here was a warrant got served - and we know from reporting that Trump's lawyers were present when it was done and SS was notified.

But no question this is an extraordinary moment.

The Lawyers were present, but not allowed to see what the FBI was doing.

 

[nice marmot]

I can tell that you watch a lot of fake news. You need to Truly get an education. The Hildabeast paid for fake fisas is she in jail, she and Bill were suspected of murdering people that crossed them. The FBI is definitely in the far lefts pocket. I suppose you like the way is being run today. Hiring of 85,000 new IRS employees make you feel good. Probably to raise more money to cover Old Joes spending. Let’s let Hunter and Old Joe take more money from the Chinese. Why do you think they are trying to get rid of President Trump, they are scared to death of him, and will do anything to get him out of the picture. The good thing about him is that he is a fighter. he fights for this countr

"Next up on FOX News, 'Remembering the Obamas' Terrorist Fist Jab..."

 

[55dawg]

again, we suddenly think the FBI is a wing of the Democratic party?

also, what presidency were you watching? The whole point of Trump was to thumb one's nose at the law and not suffer consequences.

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn’t lose any voters, okay?” Trump said, mimicking firing a gun with his fingers. “It’s, like, incredible.”

Nothing sudden about it

 

[Bells76]

Tell us where it was verified. Look at all that was verified about the Hildabeast and still nothing was done.

Its a legitimate question

 

[Bells76]

This whole raid is incredibly stupid. First, if trump did take some papers, do they really believe he would store them at his place. Call him whatever you want but he's not stupid. if he took something that was illegal, no way it would be stored some place they could just perform a raid and find. At this point if they claimed to have found something, I would believe it was planted, and not because I believe trump is above that, but because I don't think many people are that stupid, especially Billionaires.

 

[nice marmot]

Nothing sudden about it

please. again - the agency has never even been led by a Democrat afaik. Comey - R Wray - R ... on back.

 

[poorpreacher]

The facts of the situation, which are yet to be made public, don’t matter in any way because there are literally no facts that will lead the Trumpists to ever reconsider their support.

Perhaps. But the same goes for a lot of people, not just those who support Trump.

 

[WyoDawg307]

The banana republic started with those idiots on Jan 6.

“One note Coco” for the predicted response.

 

[nice marmot]

This whole raid is incredibly stupid. First, if trump did take some papers, do they really believe he would store them at his place. Call him whatever you want but he's not stupid. if he took something that was illegal, no way it would be stored some place they could just perform a raid and find. At this point if they claimed to have found something, I would believe it was planted, and not because I believe trump is above that, but because I don't think many people are that stupid, especially Billionaires.

what if he was trying to sell secrets?