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It isn’t dominated by extremists. That is the worst thing you have ever posted here. Are there extremist? Sure. But that is an awfully big blanket and what I thought was below you. Most here are not extremist. Are all democrats welfare sucking, trans, pedo, illegal loving murderers. Trump is only here because half the country felt like they have no voice. Keep voting for the divisive bs your guy pushes. Your Newly adopted group you support is more divisive than ever. And farther left. Biden might as well be an extremist. Which is crazy considering he was the Joe manchin of the party 20 years ago.


I did say if she get out of line someone will replace or remove her I am sure. That is what it is about right. The crazy thing is. She is probably there because of the insanity the left pushes in schools. Furries. Don’t tell mom and dad I am a trans. Or gay. Critical race theory. I have seen that at uga. And you wonder why some extremist person gets a job like this. Come on. Just like I have told you from the start. The reaction to extremism is usually to be more extreme in the other side. A lot of pubs here have voiced the same opinion as mine. We have two choices. You guy is toast and left of freaking left. And he is running the place. Trump governed from the middle. Which is what makes this sad.
as far as your question about all dimocrats, the answer is yes,. Those are all things the dim party support, if you vote for a dim you support their platform, you can't drive a getaway vehicle in a crime and not be guilty of the crime. Leftist want to act all enlightened and say they are accepting of all things without sharing in the guilt of vacuuming babies out of the womb, feel like since they are not sexualizing children themselves they are not responsible in any way when their party promotes all these deviant things. When you cast a vote for that party you are guilty. Its in their platform.
 
as far as your question about all dimocrats, the answer is yes,. Those are all things the dim party support, if you vote for a dim you support their platform, you can't drive a getaway vehicle in a crime and not be guilty of the crime. Leftist want to act all enlightened and say they are accepting of all things without sharing in the guilt of vacuuming babies out of the womb, feel like since they are not sexualizing children themselves they are not responsible in any way when their party promotes all these deviant things. When you cast a vote for that party you are guilty. Its in their platform.
I hear you. But I don’t agree with everything in the pub platform. But it matches my viewpoints the most. Same with Dems. Doesn’t mean they all support the same things. All I am getting at. That black and white a viewpoint is fine. I get it, but compromise is the only way you should try to solve things imo. In politics. Not by running over the other side putting all of them in the same basket. It is what makes this country great and frustrating. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one brother.
 
It isn’t dominated by extremists. That is the worst thing you have ever posted here. Are there extremist? Sure. But that is an awfully big blanket and what I thought was below you. Most here are not extremist. Are all democrats welfare sucking, trans, pedo, illegal loving murderers. Trump is only here because half the country felt like they have no voice. Keep voting for the divisive bs your guy pushes. Your Newly adopted group you support is more divisive than ever. And farther left. Biden might as well be an extremist. Which is crazy considering he was the Joe manchin of the party 20 years ago.


I did say if she gets out of line someone will replace or remove her I am sure. That is what it is about right. The crazy thing is. She is probably there because of the insanity the left pushes in schools. Furries. Don’t tell mom and dad I am a trans. Or gay. Critical race theory. I have seen that at uga. And you wonder why some extremist person gets a job like this. Come on. Just like I have told you from the start. The reaction to extremism is usually to be more extreme on the other side. A lot of pubs here have voiced the same opinion as mine. We have two choices. You guy is toast and left of freaking left. And he is running the place. Trump governed from the middle. Which is what makes this sad. Because the extremist forget to recognize that. The propoganda is he governs from the far right. Which isn’t remotely true and you know it.
Yes, lying about election fraud for a year so that if you lose you can use the lie to try and overturn the result is very middle of the road.

J6 was super moderate. I mean, how many times have we seen the followers of a sitting president attack the Capitol?

The supposed party of family values nominating DJT totally makes sense. I mean, he only cheated on all of his three wives and had to payoff the pornstar who gave him a BJ to keep her quiet before the election. Of course, as we’ve seen this election cycle, the Christian right is all about imposing their morals on others, not actually adhering to them themselves. Nothin says moderate like forcing ten year old girls to carry their rapist’s babies, am I right?

I mean, calling on a global adversary to help you win is totally benign and normal.

Your list of grievances is right out of right wing talking points. Furries? Next you are going to tell me that public schools installed litter boxes in the bathrooms (never happened).

And what’s totally terrifying to me is that so many otheriwse normal people have been so radicalized that when a person like the GOP candidate for public school, superintendent comes along, they can’t just say her views are abhorrent, and that they would never support somebody who openly and repeatedly calls for the public execution of opposition political figures. You just can’t bring yourself to do it. It’s nothing but “yeah, but furries”.

Look throughout history. The line from talking about political violence to institutionalizing it is direct. That woman should have been shamed from public life, instead you and others on here want to tell me it’s the left’s fault.

Donald Trump had 44 cabinet members in his four years. Exactly four support his current candidacy. Four. These are the people who worked with him every day and they say he is unfit.

Now you can tell me how he’s a maverick and he’s hated because he’s a threat to the deep state or whatever BS conspiracy theories the current radicalized GOP is trading in. That’s exactly the purpose of the conspiracies and lies, to make you feel like what is entirely abnormal and threatening is actually normal, like DJT doesn’t represent a long list of unprecedented and dangerous firsts in our country’s history. Let’s definitely see how many more he can add to the list. That will work out great.

A proof point to how radicalized the GOP has become is documented in this thread. I stand by my assertion that it’s not going to work out well in November for the GOP. Most of the country doesn’t support religious or political extremism.
 
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Actually he tried to divert my attention away from the fact that he called someone out, for doing the same thing he did.

I've gotten used to him.

Diversion
Splitting hairs
Whataboutism

Can't criticize a liberal, without bringing up a conservative.

But I like ol wildup, for some reason. He's a tough debate and keeps me sharp.
Thanks for the compliment. Back at you.

I’ll take one more run at this.

I would not have been surprised had Willis been removed. As a practical issue, I would have been disappointed because I want to see that case move forward, but I wouldn’t have been surprised.

I stand by my assertion that concerns about the appearance of impropriety in the case of Willis, and not being equally or more concerned about the appearance of impropriety in the case of Thomas (as it applies to any of the DJT court cases) is an entirely reasonable point to make. Either you expect exacting standards in the court system or you don’t. The reality is, if it helps Trump it’s fine (see Thomas and Judge Cannon) and if it doesn’t it’s an outrage (Willis and NY cases).

You mentioned that it might maybe be relevant in the future if the SCOTUS hears this case. They have already agreed to hear arguments on the assertion of presidential immunity. If Trump wins that motion, it would absolutely put a stop to the case in Fulton County, or at least lead to it being overturned on appeal, full stop.

As a reminder, here is what Ginni Thomas, the wife and “best friend” of Clarence Thomas, communicated to Meadows regarding Trump’s effort to steal the election. Incidentally, Thomas was the only member of the Supreme Court who sided with Donald Trump in his efforts to stop communications, including these text messages from being released to the public. Even Alito said they must be released.

"Help This Great President stand firm, Mark!!! ... You are the leader, with him, who is standing for America's constitutional governance at the precipice. The majority knows Biden and the Left is attempting the greatest Heist of our History," Thomas wrote on Nov. 10, 2020.

Thomas wrote to Meadows on Nov. 19, 2020, "Sounds like Sidney and her team are getting inundated with evidence of fraud. Make a plan. Release the Kraken and save us from the left taking America down."

On Nov. 24, 2020, she wrote: "I can't see Americans swallowing the obvious fraud. Just going with one more thing with no frickin consequences... the whole coup and now this... we just cave to people wanting Biden to be anointed? Many of us can't continue the GOP charade."

"We are living through what feels like the end of America. Most of us are disgusted with the VP and are in a listening mode to see where to fight with our teams. Those who attacked the Capitol are not representative of our great teams of patriots for DJT!! Amazing times. The end of Liberty," Thomas wrote.
 
Yes, lying about election fraud for a year so that if you lose you can use the lie to try and overturn the result is very middle of the road.

J6 was super moderate. I mean, how many times have we seen the followers of a sitting president attack the Capitol?

The supposed party of family values nominating DJT totally makes sense. I mean, he only cheated on all of his three wives and had to payoff the pornstar who gave him a BJ to keep her quiet before the election. Of course, as we’ve seen this election cycle, the Christian right is all about imposing their morals on others, not actually adhering to them themselves. Nothin says moderate like forcing ten year old girls to carry their rapist’s babies, am I right?

I mean, calling on a global adversary to help you win is totally benign and normal.

Your list of grievances is right out of right wing talking points. Furries? Next you are going to tell me that public schools installed litter boxes in the bathrooms (never happened).

And what’s totally terrifying to me is that so many otheriwse normal people have been so radicalized that when a person like the GOP candidate for public school, superintendent comes along, they can’t just say her views are abhorrent, and that they would never support somebody who openly and repeatedly calls for the public execution of opposition political figures. You just can’t bring yourself to do it. It’s nothing but “yeah, but furries”.

Look throughout history. The line from talking about political violence to institutionalizing it is direct. That woman should have been shamed from public life, instead you and others on here want to tell me it’s the left’s fault.

Donald Trump had 44 cabinet members in his four years. Exactly four support his current candidacy. Four. These are the people who worked with him every day and they say he is unfit.

Now you can tell me how he’s a maverick and he’s hated because he’s a threat to the deep state or whatever BS conspiracy theories the current radicalized GOP is trading in. That’s exactly the purpose of the conspiracies and lies, to make you feel like what is entirely abnormal and threatening is actually normal, like DJT doesn’t represent a long list of unprecedented and dangerous firsts in our country’s history. Let’s definitely see how many more he can add to the list. That will work out great.

A proof point to how radicalized the GOP has become is documented in this thread. I stand by my assertion that it’s not going to work out well in November for the GOP. Most of the country doesn’t support religious or political extremism.
This is exactly my point. You focus on the litter box part of the furries. Not about kids dressing as animals going to school. That isn’t lefty extremism right. We would have run them out of town in the 80’s. You think will’s mom is letting you hang out with a furry kid. You deflect and go to litter boxes. You are a full fledged Democrat now I guess.

You went Jan 6th. A protest that got out of hand. Yet we had annexation of our country in the summer of love. Never happened before right. But the left did it. So it isn’t so bad right. We had property and shit destroyed for three months. Along with the crazy left killing people. Any convictions for the dead yet? Just like a tell you all the time. The response is always worse. Jan 6th. Or July 6th. Which one is it will? Biden says July 6th.

Elections have consequences. But a fair election is results we should accept and vote the person out next time. Just quoting my man @mitchelldawg. I don’t like the damn woman’s views. Anymore than I like you hoping we elect a vege who is running the country off a cliff. We have a full fledge invasion going on. The bill for it will hit soon enough. With more death, destruction and more economic strife for most of the country.

Obama is why trump is here. Period. He said what others wouldn’t. Obama told you what to say. Biden literally tells the media what to say. We have him drug into courts all over the place off of political platforms. Extremism. We have people running whose only goal is to sue Donald Trump. Look at what this has done to the rest of their responsibilities. No the media will not cover that. The people around here just have to deal with two year time frames for hearings. And murderers being allowed to go free left and right. Thanks will.

But worst of all, you just focus on the man. I have proven both are evil. I have already admitted it. Yet you try to explain how he is worse. You can’t be worse than Biden. It isn’t possible. However, one governs from a place of evil and extremism. One doesn’t. You glossed over that. Biden only governs for half the country. Doesn’t fit your agenda. Cant talk about that. You glossed over lefty extremist already in Congress. The squad. One of whom has admitted to a form of treason. She is only governing for her country first. You guys are fine with that. Just keep that Orangeman out. You are worried about a qanon woman in nc. Is she going to spawn a bigger movement? Depends on what kind of job she does. Her viewpoints aside, what caused them? Why is she home schooling? Why are so, so many home schooling now? The more left your party moves, only spawns more qanon types. People got tired of pubs rolling over and taking it up the ass from Dems. So we got Trump and his viewpoints. That is a fact. Likely the same way this crazy bitch got elected. The other was likely allowing trans to switch bathrooms. People don’t like that.
 
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Yes, lying about election fraud for a year so that if you lose you can use the lie to try and overturn the result is very middle of the road.

J6 was super moderate. I mean, how many times have we seen the followers of a sitting president attack the Capitol?

The supposed party of family values nominating DJT totally makes sense. I mean, he only cheated on all of his three wives and had to payoff the pornstar who gave him a BJ to keep her quiet before the election. Of course, as we’ve seen this election cycle, the Christian right is all about imposing their morals on others, not actually adhering to them themselves. Nothin says moderate like forcing ten year old girls to carry their rapist’s babies, am I right?

I mean, calling on a global adversary to help you win is totally benign and normal.

Your list of grievances is right out of right wing talking points. Furries? Next you are going to tell me that public schools installed litter boxes in the bathrooms (never happened).

And what’s totally terrifying to me is that so many otheriwse normal people have been so radicalized that when a person like the GOP candidate for public school, superintendent comes along, they can’t just say her views are abhorrent, and that they would never support somebody who openly and repeatedly calls for the public execution of opposition political figures. You just can’t bring yourself to do it. It’s nothing but “yeah, but furries”.

Look throughout history. The line from talking about political violence to institutionalizing it is direct. That woman should have been shamed from public life, instead you and others on here want to tell me it’s the left’s fault.

Donald Trump had 44 cabinet members in his four years. Exactly four support his current candidacy. Four. These are the people who worked with him every day and they say he is unfit.

Now you can tell me how he’s a maverick and he’s hated because he’s a threat to the deep state or whatever BS conspiracy theories the current radicalized GOP is trading in. That’s exactly the purpose of the conspiracies and lies, to make you feel like what is entirely abnormal and threatening is actually normal, like DJT doesn’t represent a long list of unprecedented and dangerous firsts in our country’s history. Let’s definitely see how many more he can add to the list. That will work out great.

A proof point to how radicalized the GOP has become is documented in this thread. I stand by my assertion that it’s not going to work out well in November for the GOP. Most of the country doesn’t support religious or political extremism.
I read up on her. Hadn’t heard of her till you ran in here. I see why she won. No one cares about her past. They like that she wants to abolish the school board systems. Put what is going on in schools in the hands of the legislature and an elected superintendent. All of which are Republican controlled mostly. It is a pub state. Let’s see how it works out. The old system allowed democrats to run the education system in a pub run state.

I have been told if I don’t like how the education system is working here at uga or in ga to go elsewhere. Move out. Stop whining. Let’s see what happens from here.
 
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This is exactly my point. You focus on the litter box part of the furries. Not about kids dressing as animals going to school. That isn’t lefty extremism right. We would have run them out of town in the 80’s. You think will’s mom is letting you hang out with a furry kid. You deflect and go to litter boxes. You are a full fledged Democrat now I guess.

You went Jan 6th. A protest that got out of hand. Yet we had annexation of our country in the summer of love. Never happened before right. But the left did it. So it isn’t so bad right. We had property and shit destroyed for three months. Along with the crazy left killing people. Any convictions for the dead yet? Just like a tell you all the time. The response is always worse. Jan 6th. Or July 6th. Which one is it will? Biden says July 6th.

Elections have consequences. But a fair election is results we should accept and vote the person out next time. Just quoting my man @mitchelldawg. I don’t like the damn woman’s views. Anymore than I like you hoping we elect a vege who is running the country off a cliff. We have a full fledge invasion going on. The bill for it will hit soon enough. With more death, destruction and more economic strife for most of the country.

Obama is why trump is here. Period. He said what others wouldn’t. Obama told you what to say. Biden literally tells the media what to say. We have him drug into courts all over the place off of political platforms. Extremism. We have people running whose only goal is to sue Donald Trump. Look at what this has done to the rest of their responsibilities. No the media will not cover that. The people around here just have to deal with two year time frames for hearings. And murderers being allowed to go free left and right. Thanks will.

But worst of all, you just focus on the man. I have proven both are evil. I have already admitted it. Yet you try to explain how he is worse. You can’t be worse than Biden. It isn’t possible. However, one governs from a place of evil and extremism. One doesn’t. You glossed over that. Biden only governs for half the country. Doesn’t fit your agenda. Cant talk about that. You glossed over lefty extremist already in Congress. The squad. One of whom has admitted to a form of treason. She is only governing for her country first. You guys are fine with that. Just keep that Orangeman out. You are worried about a qanon woman in nc. Is she going to spawn a bigger movement? Depends on what kind of job she does. Her viewpoints aside, what caused them? Why is she home schooling? Why are so, so many home schooling now? The more left your party moves, only spawns more qanon types. People got tired of pubs rolling over and taking it up the ass from Dems. So we got Trump and his viewpoints. That is a fact. Likely the same way this crazy bitch got elected. The other was likely allowing trans to switch bathrooms. People don’t like that.
That’s a lot of words to say that anything that Trump and the GOP does wrong is not their fault.

Overly accommodating school dress code policy is not equivalent to calling for public executions of the opposition.

How Hillary responded to losing the election is not the same as how Trump responded.

A bunch of dirty malcontents, who are not aligned with either party and would loudly tell you that both parties are evil, taking over some city blocks in Portland has nothing to do with thousands of Trump supporters leaving his rally and using his lies to inspire an attack on the Capitol to stop certification.

I don’t even have a false equivalence to use regarding Trump’s welcoming of Russian help to get elected. That’s how unprecedented it is.

The differences in the Biden and Pence documents cases and the Trump case have been well documented, specifically in the Hur report.

I could go on and on. The justifications of Trump’s behavior is built on a mountain of false equivalencies.

Forty out of forty four former Trump cabinet members say Trump is unfit. Not that they disagree with him, that he is mentally and emotionally unfit to serve. Could there possibly a more searing indictment of a leader? Have you ever encountered an effective leader who is so universally condemned by those who worked most closely with him or her? Hell no you haven’t. These aren’t random people, these are senior, accomplished, loyal republicans chosen by the guy who promises to only hire the best people. Huh.

But I’m sure he will nail it this time.
 
Obama is why trump is here. Period.
Don't completely agree here. Imo, Trump was created by milquetoast or complicit Pubs. Trump was shouting build a wall while the favorite for the 16 nomination was speaking Spanish at his rallies. Trump was slamming trade deals that gave open access to our market without reciprocation and called a protectionist. Trump had a history of being a street fighting asshole and his opponents had a history of campaigning like conservatives but caving on their positions the first time the WAPO ran a hit piece.

O is a divisive anti American statist that riled up the Pub base but if guys like Romney and McCain had put up a fight and maybe defended the pub base when O said things like clinging to guns and religion, Trump wouldn't have been necessary. Instead, they decided to get behind read my lips, no new taxes #3 in 16 and participate in the subversion of his term. It would have been really easy for the Pubs to take Trump's issues and send him back to firing people on TV but here we are.
 
Don't completely agree here. Imo, Trump was created by milquetoast or complicit Pubs. Trump was shouting build a wall while the favorite for the 16 nomination was speaking Spanish at his rallies. Trump was slamming trade deals that gave open access to our market without reciprocation and called a protectionist. Trump had a history of being a street fighting asshole and his opponents had a history of campaigning like conservatives but caving on their positions the first time the WAPO ran a hit piece.

O is a divisive anti American statist that riled up the Pub base but if guys like Romney and McCain had put up a fight and maybe defended the pub base when O said things like clinging to guns and religion, Trump wouldn't have been necessary. Instead, they decided to get behind read my lips, no new taxes #3 in 16 and participate in the subversion of his term. It would have been really easy for the Pubs to take Trump's issues and send him back to firing people on TV but here we are.
I’ll add that Trump’s road to the WH really started March, 2011, when he first promoted the idea that Obama was not a US citizen. That spoke directly to what we now call the MAGA movement and it promoted and amplified a conspiracy theory that is both stupid and racist. Draw a direct line from that event to the promulgation and mainstreaming of other conspiracy theories including the election fraud lie and J6. The radicalization of the GOP that zinger and I are arguing about started exactly there.

Trump had toyed with politics in the past, but he got no traction until he crafted his message to speak to the lunatics. The Faustian bargain that the GOP struck with Trump and the Maga movement to win the election in 2016 worked at the time. Every election since it’s been a problem and the problem has only grown. The GOP could have cut ties in the second impeachment trial but they doubled down instead.
 
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I’ll add that Trump’s road to the WH really started March, 2011, when he first promoted the idea that Obama was not a US citizen. That spoke directly to what we now call the MAGA movement and it promoted and amplified a conspiracy theory that is both stupid and racist. Draw a direct line from that event to the promulgation and mainstreaming of other conspiracy theories including the election fraud lie and J6. The radicalization of the GOP that zinger and I are arguing about started exactly there.

Trump had toyed with politics in the past, but he got no traction until he crafted his message to speak to the lunatics. The Faustian bargain that the GOP struck with Trump and the Maga movement to win the election in 2016 worked at the time. Every election since it’s been a problem and the problem has only grown. The GOP could have cut ties in the second impeachment trial but they doubled down instead.
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I hear you. But I don’t agree with everything in the pub platform. But it matches my viewpoints the most. Same with Dems. Doesn’t mean they all support the same things. All I am getting at. That black and white a viewpoint is fine. I get it, but compromise is the only way you should try to solve things imo. In politics. Not by running over the other side putting all of them in the same basket. It is what makes this country great and frustrating. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one brother.
Oh I don't agree with some of the pub platform either. Its just less harmful and not full of deviant crap like baby murder, sexualizing children, open borders, etc etc etc. The pub platform isn't anti family, anti Christian, pro destruction of America either.

I don't think you can compromise with the dims. They don't compromise. They only agree to things that are destructive to our way of life. They have a play book and stick to it. Just look at the media. When they get on a topic they all have a catch phrase. I believe the dnc sends out a memo on how they want to spin certain things and they are obedient willing accomplices.

Give me a recent example where the dims compromised on something they wanted and it went more the way of the pubs ideas please. I only remember the weak yellow backed pubs giving in to the extreme demands of the left.
 
I’ll add that Trump’s road to the WH really started March, 2011, when he first promoted the idea that Obama was not a US citizen. That spoke directly to what we now call the MAGA movement and it promoted and amplified a conspiracy theory that is both stupid and racist. Draw a direct line from that event to the promulgation and mainstreaming of other conspiracy theories including the election fraud lie and J6. The radicalization of the GOP that zinger and I are arguing about started exactly there.

Trump had toyed with politics in the past, but he got no traction until he crafted his message to speak to the lunatics. The Faustian bargain that the GOP struck with Trump and the Maga movement to win the election in 2016 worked at the time. Every election since it’s been a problem and the problem has only grown. The GOP could have cut ties in the second impeachment trial but they doubled down instead.

So now, Trump is also responsible for…the “radicalization” of the GOP? For something that happened FIVE YEARS before he became president. (Also, he was definitely not the first person to say Obama wasn’t born in the U.S., and definitely wasn’t the person who promoted that idea in mainstream conversation.)

TDS is quite real, folks. They’ll blame him for anything and everything.

 
Don't completely agree here. Imo, Trump was created by milquetoast or complicit Pubs. Trump was shouting build a wall while the favorite for the 16 nomination was speaking Spanish at his rallies. Trump was slamming trade deals that gave open access to our market without reciprocation and called a protectionist. Trump had a history of being a street fighting asshole and his opponents had a history of campaigning like conservatives but caving on their positions the first time the WAPO ran a hit piece.

O is a divisive anti American statist that riled up the Pub base but if guys like Romney and McCain had put up a fight and maybe defended the pub base when O said things like clinging to guns and religion, Trump wouldn't have been necessary. Instead, they decided to get behind read my lips, no new taxes #3 in 16 and participate in the subversion of his term. It would have been really easy for the Pubs to take Trump's issues and send him back to firing people on TV but here we are.
He hated the way Obama ran the country. That’s how he ended up in politics. I agree with your take wholeheartedly. Trump red pilled when all his democrat buddies cut him off for criticizing Obama. What made Trump president is what you mention above. This made Jesse and Oprah back away from their close friend.




Absolutely he got into politics because of Obama.

Edit: @Dirty Hairy Dawg this is the article where his advisor said Trump turned and decided to run for president. Obama went after him. And it was on. One hundred percent a creation of Obama.

 
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So now, Trump is also responsible for…the “radicalization” of the GOP? For something that happened FIVE YEARS before he became president. (Also, he was definitely not the first person to say Obama wasn’t born in the U.S., and definitely wasn’t the person who promoted that idea in mainstream conversation.)

TDS is quite real, folks. They’ll blame him for anything and everything.

I said that the topic that gave Trump political oxygen was Obama birtherism, and that he used that topic to tap into a vein of nut jobs that pre-existed him. But Trump amplified and legitimized that form of thinking and it has culminated, for now, with the outright lie that Trump won the last election. A huge percentage of registered republicans still believe that nonsense, despite the total failure to prove even a single instance in a single state of mass fraud.

There was a time when common sense, pragmatic republicans would agree that this kind of thinking represents radicalization, because it does. Instead, half true country reside in an alternate universe where Trump was robbed and J6 was a tourist event.

But I’m just a guy with an opinion. I’m alway open to opposing arguments, which neither of you bothered to offer up.
 
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I said that the topic that gave Trump political oxygen was Obama birtherism, and that he used that topic to tap into a vein of nut jobs that pre-existed him. But Trump amplified and legitimized that form of thinking and it has culminated, for now, with the outright lie that Trump won the last election. A huge percentage of registered republicans still believe that nonsense, despite the total failure to prove even a single instance in a single state of mass fraud.

There was a time when common sense, pragmatic republicans would agree that this kind of thinking represents radicalization, because it does. Instead, half true country reside in an alternate universe where Trump was robbed and J6 was a tourist event.

But I’m just a guy with an opinion. I’m alway open to opposing arguments, which neither of you bothered to offer up.
You bringing up common sense made me fall out of my chair. I appreciate the laugh this morning.

I have told you a million times what he tapped into. People were sick of being told how they should act. What they could and couldn’t do. Pretty simple. They felt they had no voice. So a guy given no chance by Obama. Hillary and others won an election. Probably is going to do it again because instead learning from your mistakes back then. You doubled down. And only governed for one side of the country. This time you left the poor people in your base behind. I am interested to see if they still take the manure you guys shovel.


This is the confirmation. Obama created Trump the politician. You guys that have tds want someone to thank. Thank the chosen one.
 
He hated the way Obama ran the country. That’s how he ended up in politics. I agree with your take wholeheartedly. Trump red pilled when all his democrat buddies cut him off for criticizing Obama. What made Trump president is what you mention above. This made Jesse and Oprah back away from their close friend.




Absolutely he got into politics because of Obama.

Edit: @Dirty Hairy Dawg this is the article where his advisor said Trump turned and decided to run for president. Obama went after him. And it was on. One hundred percent a creation of Obama.

I agree O was his motivation. My point is if the Pub leadership had fought back vs O instead of acting like criticizing him made them a racist, Trump wouldn't have gotten traction because he wouldn't have been needed. Trump didn't beat 16 pro pub politicians because O was a divisive, anti American activist. He became a viable politician because he wasn't afraid to fight a government establishment that about half the country believed to be corrupt.
 
Oh I don't agree with some of the pub platform either. Its just less harmful and not full of deviant crap like baby murder, sexualizing children, open borders, etc etc etc. The pub platform isn't anti family, anti Christian, pro destruction of America either.

I don't think you can compromise with the dims. They don't compromise. They only agree to things that are destructive to our way of life. They have a play book and stick to it. Just look at the media. When they get on a topic they all have a catch phrase. I believe the dnc sends out a memo on how they want to spin certain things and they are obedient willing accomplices.

Give me a recent example where the dims compromised on something they wanted and it went more the way of the pubs ideas please. I only remember the weak yellow backed pubs giving in to the extreme demands of the left.
I have said they don’t compromise all the time. They will circle the wagons and eat shit to stay together. The poor democrats have been eating a lot of shit this time around. It will be put to the test.

Cherry. You have to hope there will be compromise. Otherwise it is a revolution eventually. No one should want that. Right?
 
I agree O was his motivation. My point is if the Pub leadership had fought back vs O instead of acting like criticizing him made them a racist, Trump wouldn't have gotten traction because he wouldn't have been needed. Trump didn't beat 16 pro pub politicians because O was a divisive, anti American activist. He became a viable politician because he wasn't afraid to fight a government establishment that about half the country believed to be corrupt.
100 percent agree my friend. Great post.
 
That post wasn’t a reply
You bringing up common sense made me fall out of my chair. I appreciate the laugh this morning.

I have told you a million times what he tapped into. People were sick of being told how they should act. What they could and couldn’t do. Pretty simple. They felt they had no voice. So a guy given no chance by Obama. Hillary and others won an election. Probably is going to do it again because instead learning from your mistakes back then. You doubled down. And only governed for one side of the country. This time you left the poor people in your base behind. I am interested to see if they still take the manure you guys shovel.


This is the confirmation. Obama created Trump the politician. You guys that have tds want someone to thank. Thank the chosen one.
That post wasn’t a reply to you.

If you want to suggest I’m lacking common sense, please be specific. Maybe cite something like four years of lies about election fraud, or my belief about shooting the politicians I happen to disagree with. You know, the mainstream stuff.
 
That post wasn’t a reply

That post wasn’t a reply to you.

If you want to suggest I’m lacking common sense, please be specific. Maybe cite something like four years of lies about election fraud, or my belief about shooting the politicians I happen to disagree with. You know, the mainstream stuff.
Well, you act like you believe all the cray cray spewed by NYT, MSNBC and CNN. There's that.
 
I have said they don’t compromise all the time. They will circle the wagons and eat shit to stay together. The poor democrats have been eating a lot of shit this time around. It will be put to the test.

Cherry. You have to hope there will be compromise. Otherwise it is a revolution eventually. No one should want that. Right?
I only agree with compromise if both sides do it. I don't agree with the rino pubs being all touchy feely with the dimocrat socialist anti America party, Sadly, for too many years only 1 side has moved. Our government is now more left, more woke, more intrusive than any other time in history. All because we allowed the left to take over the education system (through compromise) and dumb down a couple of generations. These chat libs are proof. They are all younger than us and a product of the anti democracy left wing garbage produced by the education system and parents that do not guide them.
 
Well, you act like you believe all the cray cray spewed by NYT, MSNBC and CNN. There's that.
100 percent agree my friend. Great post.
Two simple questions for you guys.

Do you agree all of the people in jail for J6 are hostages and should be pardoned if Trump wins the presidency?

Do you think that displays like this could inspire more violence if Trump loses?

This isn’t left wing news. This isn’t filtered. This is how your candidate is beginning all his rallies now.

 
Two simple questions for you guys.

Do you agree all of the people in jail for J6 are hostages and should be pardoned if Trump wins the presidency?

Do you think that displays like this could inspire more violence if Trump loses?

This isn’t left wing news. This isn’t filtered. This is how your candidate is beginning all his rallies now.

I don’t agree all are hostages. But I see no convictions for any deaths caused during the summer of love. I do think it is a little crazy that the man with the stun gun on July 6th (Biden’s date)got 11 years. He used it on a cop. The cop is fine. Two cops used stun guns too often in dc and killed a man. They got 11 years also. I don’t believe the punishments all have fit the crimes. They did play a stupid game and won a stupid prize. Doesn’t mean I agree with the punishment.

I think trump should distance himself from Jan 6th. Or July 6th. He knows it gets under the left’s skin so bad. He also knows the press will eat it up. Breaking down the footage. The unmitigated gall of this man. I think win or lose he loves owning the left’s airtime. He loves owning their headspace. These kind of things are why I would not vote for him in a primary.
 
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I don’t agree all are hostages. But I see no convictions for any deaths caused during the summer of love. I do think it is a little crazy that the man with the stun gun on July 6th (Biden’s date)got 11 years. He used it on a cop. The cop is fine. Two cops used stun guns too often in dc and killed a man. They got 11 years also. I don’t believe the punishments all have fit the crimes. They did play a stupid game and won a stupid prize. Doesn’t mean I agree with the punishment.

I think trump should distance himself from Jan 6th. Or July 6th. He knows it gets under the left’s skin so bad. He also knows the press will eat it up. Breaking down the footage. The unmitigated gall of this man. I think win or lose he loves owning the left’s airtime. He loves owning their headspace. These kind of things are why I would not vote for him in a primary.
Plenty of people were convicted and sent to prison for the summer riots.


The stark difference in the comparison you keep making is Trump praises and honors the rioters daily now and Biden has never praised or honored anyone convicted of violence, much less violence against the police. It’s another false equivalence.

When I examine anything regarding government and leadership, I like to consult the Founders. As such, I’ll leave you with the thoughts of Alexander Hamilton, writing in 1792 to George Washington. There is nothing new under the sun, and if there was one thing the Founders understood well, it was human nature and thirst for power.

“The only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. . . When a man unprincipled in private life[,] desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper … is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity … It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ‘ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.’”

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“Even events that “cross the line” must fall under total immunity…”.

I wonder what “cross the line” means here.

 
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Plenty of people were convicted and sent to prison for the summer riots.


The stark difference in the comparison you keep making is Trump praises and honors the rioters daily now and Biden has never praised or honored anyone convicted of violence, much less violence against the police. It’s another false equivalence.

When I examine anything regarding government and leadership, I like to consult the Founders. As such, I’ll leave you with the thoughts of Alexander Hamilton, writing in 1792 to George Washington. There is nothing new under the sun, and if there was one thing the Founders understood well, it was human nature and thirst for power.

“The only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. . . When a man unprincipled in private life[,] desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper … is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity … It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ‘ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.’”

Edit:
“Even events that “cross the line” must fall under total immunity…”.

I wonder what “cross the line” means here.

It’s funny you mention the founders writing about Republican ways. Most people considered that the Democrat party back then. Or are you ok with admitting the republicans were the ones who abolished slavery. That used to be what the Democrat party was about. Helping the less fortunate. Being the inclusive party where all have their voice heard. Only the elites have their voice heard now. The party has been bastardized and stretched. The wagons circled no matter what the cause. We will see. You left the poor in your party behind. You have become socialist driven. The poor have no voice here. Just do what you are told and speak how we want you to speak. We will tell you what is politically correct. The hell with your own opinions. This is where you are will. He governs for 25 percent of the population. And it shows. He has collected more worst president honors than anyone in modern history. Even over Trump. The Democrat party has become the party of exclusion and the rich. More billionaire democrats now than ever. Destroy the middle class, rule by fear of what the other side will do, demonize all their leaders, and keep the rich getting richer. wtf happened. There are no middle ground Dems. The ones that were are running independent or have been kicked out.

There have been no convictions of the murders attributed to the summer of love. Trump still pays homage to July 6th supporters because they are still his. He condemned what happened. But they are still Americans.

Biden and none of the media ever mention the summer of love. Full video released on George Floyd makes it a terrible murder. Full story told makes it not about race at all. A man with 15 excessive force complaints did what he always did. And he was left as a training officer. Who made that decision will?you won’t like looking up where the buck stops there with the police. All that property destroyed for nothing. 11 deaths for nothing. Biden knows it is a loser for him to reference. If it helped him in the polls, he would talk about his own diaper changes daily.

Hey will! Anyone checked the numbers since Biden has been in office if the number of AA perps shot has changed? Guess what. It hasn’t. It is the same.

Hey will? Guess what number is on the rise in the country. Now the most shot perps aren’t going to be white folks in 2024. It is going to be unknown race. Unknown race will be the most shot by police in this country. Why are they unknown @willdup? They are illegal. Or ahem undocumented. It is expected by the numbers to be the most shot race combined in 2024. Quite the leadership the vege has going on right there. You must be so proud.


My proof


Just for good measure. More have been shot under Biden than Trump by police. That’s probably why he doesn’t mention it. He hasn’t done jackshit about it. He doesn’t care.
 
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It’s funny you mention the founders writing about Republican ways. Most people considered that the Democrat party back then. Or are you ok with admitting the republicans were the ones who abolished slavery. That used to be what the Democrat party was about. Helping the less fortunate. Being the inclusive party where all have their voice heard. Only the elites have their voice heard now. The party has been bastardized and stretched. The wagons circled no matter what the cause. We will see. You left the poor in your party behind. You have become socialist driven. The poor have no voice here. Just do what you are told and speak how we want you to speak. We will tell you what is politically correct. The hell with your own opinions. This is where you are will. He governs for 25 percent of the population. And it shows. He has collected more worst president honors than anyone in modern history. Even over Trump. The Democrat party has become the party of exclusion and the rich. More billionaire democrats now than ever. Destroy the middle class, rule by fear of what the other side will do, demonize all their leaders, and keep the rich getting richer. wtf happened. There are no middle ground Dems. The ones that were are running independent or have been kicked out.

There have been no convictions of the murders attributed to the summer of love. Trump still pays homage to July 6th supporters because they are still his. He condemned what happened. But they are still Americans.

Biden and none of the media ever mention the summer of love. Full video released on George Floyd makes it a terrible murder. Full story told makes it not about race at all. A man with 15 excessive force complaints did what he always did. And he was left as a training officer. Who made that decision will?you won’t like looking up where the buck stops there with the police. All that property destroyed for nothing. 11 deaths for nothing. Biden knows it is a loser for him to reference. If it helped him in the polls, he would talk about his own diaper changes daily.

Hey will! Anyone checked the numbers since Biden has been in office if the number of AA perps shot has changed? Guess what. It hasn’t. It is the same.

Hey will? Guess what number is on the rise in the country. Now the most shot perps aren’t going to be white folks in 2024. It is going to be unknown race. Unknown race will be the most shot by police in this country. Why are they unknown @willdup? They are illegal. Or ahem undocumented. It is expected by the numbers to be the most shot race combined in 2024. Quite the leadership the vege has going on right there. You must be so proud.


My proof


Just for good measure. More have been shot under Biden than Trump by police. That’s probably why he doesn’t mention it. He hasn’t done jackshit about it. He doesn’t care.
Even in a long list of whatabouts, that’s the most whatabouts from you yet.

Slavery? Politics and parties aren’t static.

Dem LBJ is number two to Lincoln on the list of presidents who positively impacted civil rights.

Republican Nixon and team created the Southern Strategy to leverage racial animus for electoral benefit. It was so divisive and destructive that Lee Atwater expressed regret about his contribution to it on his deathbed, which is some damn meaningful regret.


Trump and Biden must have a thing for July, given Trump referred to 9/11 as 7/11.

And finally, I understand why you would prefer to discuss the Civil War rather than Trump’s authoritarian rhetoric directly praising and promising to pardon hundreds of people convicted of violent felonies against police committed in his name AND his assertion that he is immune from any prosecution, even when “crossing the line”, due to presidential immunity, both of which happened last night.

I get it. When there is no defense, the only option is to change the subject.
 
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Two simple questions for you guys.

Do you agree all of the people in jail for J6 are hostages and should be pardoned if Trump wins the presidency?

Do you think that displays like this could inspire more violence if Trump loses?

This isn’t left wing news. This isn’t filtered. This is how your candidate is beginning all his rallies now.

Based on what I've seen there are some in jail who shouldn't be there. There are also some that have been held without bail pending trial for years. The Constitution guarantees a speedy trial. We're at 3.5 years for some. Even murderers are treated better.

I don't think Trump whipped up fervor like Ray Epps did. And just like today's fake news about Trump's bloodbath comment about the auto industry, the MSM doesn't play the whole video where Trump instructs people to act peacefully. It's intentional misinfo that some pols like Pelosi and Swalwell have jumped on too.

Let me ask you this. Are you not insulted when the media and lefty pols intentionally lie and misled you? If Trump were as bad as you say, why is there a need to lie and mislead? At what point do you (@willdup) call BS? The US MSM is no different than Pravda these days. Between them and the pols, I just don't understand why you're not insulted.
 
Based on what I've seen there are some in jail who shouldn't be there. There are also some that have been held without bail pending trial for years. The Constitution guarantees a speedy trial. We're at 3.5 years for some. Even murderers are treated better.

I don't think Trump whipped up fervor like Ray Epps did. And just like today's fake news about Trump's bloodbath comment about the auto industry, the MSM doesn't play the whole video where Trump instructs people to act peacefully. It's intentional misinfo that some pols like Pelosi and Swalwell have jumped on too.

Let me ask you this. Are you not insulted when the media and lefty pols intentionally lie and misled you? If Trump were as bad as you say, why is there a need to lie and mislead? At what point do you (@willdup) call BS? The US MSM is no different than Pravda these days. Between them and the pols, I just don't understand why you're not insulted.
I looked into the bloodbath comment and agree it was an economic comment, not a call for actual bloodshed.

Which makes MTGs sign and actions today very difficult to understand. Honk if you want a bloodbath?



None of which is particularly relevant to what Trump said and did last night. Trump didn’t say some jailed J6 inmates. He didn’t qualify it at all.

Also, what does presidential immunity, even “when crossing the line”, mean and do you agree? Biden is still in office for almost another year, which would suggest he has has a lot of leeway between now and then if you agree with Trump.
 
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I looked into the bloodbath comment and agree it was an economic comment, not a call for actual bloodshed.

Which makes MTGs sign and actions today very difficult to understand. Honk if you want a bloodbath?



None of which is particularly relevant to what Trump said and did last night. Trump didn’t say some jailed J6 inmates. He didn’t qualify it at all.

Also, what does presidential immunity, even “when crossing the line”, mean and do you agree? Biden is still in office for almost another year, which would suggest he has has a lot of leeway between now and then if you agree with Trump.
Trashy is today's classy.
 
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Even in a long list of whatabouts, that’s the most whatabouts from you yet.

Slavery? Politics and parties aren’t static.

Dem LBJ is number two to Lincoln on the list of presidents who positively impacted civil rights.

Republican Nixon and team created the Southern Strategy to leverage racial animus for electoral benefit. It was so divisive and destructive that Lee Atwater expressed regret about his contribution to it on his deathbed, which is some damn meaningful regret.


Trump and Biden must have a thing for July, given Trump referred to 9/11 as 7/11.

And finally, I understand why you would prefer to discuss the Civil War rather than Trump’s authoritarian rhetoric directly praising and promising to pardon hundreds of people convicted of violent felonies against police committed in his name AND his assertion that he is immune from any prosecution, even when “crossing the line”, due to presidential immunity, both of which happened last night.

I get it. When there is no defense, the only option is to change the subject.
Haha. You didn’t respond to a single point in my post. I don’t blame you. How bout those police shooting stats huh!

Love how you claimed credit from the Dem perspective. And love even more how you mention something from the 60’s and 70’s. Nixon? lol. Don’t talk about the elitist Dems today. And how fubared your party is. Or how it has left the poor people in your base behind. Spin and pivot brother.
 
Haha. You didn’t respond to a single point in my post. I don’t blame you. How bout those police shooting stats huh!

Love how you claimed credit from the Dem perspective. And love even more how you mention something from the 60’s and 70’s. Nixon? lol. Don’t talk about the elitist Dems today. And how fubared your party is. Or how it has left the poor people in your base behind. Spin and pivot brother.
So police stats justify Trump honoring and praising the mob who attacked the police while carrying his flag? Police stats justify Trump promising to pardon people guilty of felony attacks on police? Police stats are definitely why Trump wants immunity, even when “crossing the line”.

Try and take a step back and really think about what you are saying.

As I said, the GOP has been taken over by extremists.

Edit: At least Trump isn’t losing his mind. You’ve got that going for you.

 
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Some on here are tone deaf. Its the TDS, it has nullified hearing, understanding, fairness. thoughtfulness, and ability to be honest. Some on here call the Gop a party of extremist, while the DP is full of people that celebrate the murder of babies, sexualize children, believe men are women, women are men, men can become pregnant, nurse, menstruate, believe a country should not have borders, think those that break our immigration laws should be rewarded with taxpayer paid health care, welfare benefits, given the right to vote, not imprisoned for murder, rape and mayhem, elected government officials that say they are working for another country, tried to stop democracy by taking down a dully elected president by use of a document paid for by its party's candidate, promoted perverted sex on children as normal, wants pervert men in restrooms and dressing rooms with little girls, wants boy's/men compete in sporting events against girls/women, want no form of id for voting in national elections even though you can't as an American citizen go near the whitehouse or the "hallowed hall's" of congress without id, can't get a drivers license, (you have to be illegal to get all those things without id, they can even fly without id), all thanks to the non extremeness of the dims. HA HA HA HA... Please feel free to add to the list. I'm watching the tpc and pulling for Harman so will stop here.
 
Some on here are tone deaf. Its the TDS, it has nullified hearing, understanding, fairness. thoughtfulness, and ability to be honest. Some on here call the Gop a party of extremist, while the DP is full of people that celebrate the murder of babies, sexualize children, believe men are women, women are men, men can become pregnant, nurse, menstruate, believe a country should not have borders, think those that break our immigration laws should be rewarded with taxpayer paid health care, welfare benefits, given the right to vote, not imprisoned for murder, rape and mayhem, elected government officials that say they are working for another country, tried to stop democracy by taking down a dully elected president by use of a document paid for by its party's candidate, promoted perverted sex on children as normal, wants pervert men in restrooms and dressing rooms with little girls, wants boy's/men compete in sporting events against girls/women, want no form of id for voting in national elections even though you can't as an American citizen go near the whitehouse or the "hallowed hall's" of congress without id, can't get a drivers license, (you have to be illegal to get all those things without id, they can even fly without id), all thinks to the non extremeness of the dims. HA HA HA HA... Please feel free to add to the list. I'm watching the tpc and pulling for Harman so will stop here.
Geez. Sounds like extremists to me.
 
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