That nutcase RFK Jr.

[DawglegrightinSC]

Folks - this man is a nutcase who goes around suing American companies and trying to fear monger about how bad what they do is so he can taint a jury pool and win a verdict. And he’s good at it. Please understand that nothing this man says is true. I’m sure our posters on this board who work in farming would love to hear that they are more dangerous to America than Al-Qaeda. 😏

From the WSJ today .


Start with his longtime campaign against vaccines. “There is no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective,” he told CNN last December. None? Has polio nearly vanished on its own?

“A mountain of scientific study links autism to early vaccination with certain vaccines,” he told NBC News in March. No, it doesn’t. The Wakefield study that was the basis for this claim was the result of fraudulent research.

Mr. Kennedy has toned down his anti-vaccine evangelism of late, and he now says he merely wants parents to have a choice of vaccinating their children. But places in the U.S. where parents have sought exemptions from school vaccine mandates have experienced more community outbreaks of measles.

He has suggested that “wifi radiation” is increasing autism, food allergies, asthma and chronic illnesses. “I think it degrades your mitochondria and it opens your blood-brain barrier,” he told podcaster Joe Rogan last year. There’s no evidence for that either. Nor for his claims that chemicals in sunscreen are hazardous.

Mr. Kennedy has blamed chemicals in water and consumer products for every health ill from cancer to gender dysphoria among young people. Genetically modified foods are another RFK Jr. villain. He has proposed that the government create organic-farming communes to treat drug addictions. The American diet could certainly improve, and processed foods have contributed to obesity and chronic diseases. But Americans don’t want to know how high food prices would be if it were all produced “organically.”

Like vaccines, genetically modified crops have been one of the modern age’s greatest inventions. They have increased crop yields, reduced spoilage and pesticide use, and enabled farmers to end starvation. Perhaps Mr. Trump is unaware of Mr. Kennedy’s animus against U.S. farmers, who have been among his most loyal supporters.

“Large-scale hog producers are a greater threat to the United States and U.S. democracy than Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network,” Mr. Kennedy declared in 2002. He spearheaded the trial-lawyer assault on the Roundup herbicide despite little evidence of cancer-causing risk. Ballooning litigation costs have spurred Bayer to consider pulling Roundup from the U.S. market, which would benefit competing Chinese manufacturers.

The same is true of Mr. Kennedy’s anti-business agenda. Beijing would like nothing more than for Mr. Kennedy to use his clout at HHS to hobble U.S. biotech innovation and American drug makers. By the way, where does Mr. Kennedy think most of the “natural supplements” that he touts as alternatives to medicines are produced? The answer is China.

Some Republicans have rallied in support of Mr. Kennedy because they think he will make public-health agencies more transparent and weed out alleged collusion between Big Pharma and government. But he lacks the experience and temperament to manage, let alone reform, HHS’s unwieldy bureaucracy. Mr. Kennedy’s expertise is as a gadfly.

Mr. Trump’s desire to focus on America’s health agencies is welcome, but RFK Jr. won’t make America healthier. He’s more likely to harm public health by spreading confusion and attacking the American companies that are saving lives and feeding the world.

 

[DawglegrightinSC]

A study was done on the Amish as well. No vaccines and no Autism and other illnesses common to us. Why has Autism increased exponentially since we've jumped from just a few vaccines to over 70? Maybe no connection at all but why are we not at least curious?

 

[oldmandawg]

Yyeah, we're

Folks - this man is a nutcase who goes around suing American companies and trying to fear monger about how bad what they do is so he can taint a jury pool and win a verdict. And he’s good at it. Please understand that nothing this man says is true. I’m sure our posters on this board who work in farming would love to hear that they are more dangerous to America than Al-Qaeda. 😏

From the WSJ today .


Start with his longtime campaign against vaccines. “There is no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective,” he told CNN last December. None? Has polio nearly vanished on its own?

“A mountain of scientific study links autism to early vaccination with certain vaccines,” he told NBC News in March. No, it doesn’t. The Wakefield study that was the basis for this claim was the result of fraudulent research.

Mr. Kennedy has toned down his anti-vaccine evangelism of late, and he now says he merely wants parents to have a choice of vaccinating their children. But places in the U.S. where parents have sought exemptions from school vaccine mandates have experienced more community outbreaks of measles.

He has suggested that “wifi radiation” is increasing autism, food allergies, asthma and chronic illnesses. “I think it degrades your mitochondria and it opens your blood-brain barrier,” he told podcaster Joe Rogan last year. There’s no evidence for that either. Nor for his claims that chemicals in sunscreen are hazardous.

Mr. Kennedy has blamed chemicals in water and consumer products for every health ill from cancer to gender dysphoria among young people. Genetically modified foods are another RFK Jr. villain. He has proposed that the government create organic-farming communes to treat drug addictions. The American diet could certainly improve, and processed foods have contributed to obesity and chronic diseases. But Americans don’t want to know how high food prices would be if it were all produced “organically.”

Like vaccines, genetically modified crops have been one of the modern age’s greatest inventions. They have increased crop yields, reduced spoilage and pesticide use, and enabled farmers to end starvation. Perhaps Mr. Trump is unaware of Mr. Kennedy’s animus against U.S. farmers, who have been among his most loyal supporters.

“Large-scale hog producers are a greater threat to the United States and U.S. democracy than Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network,” Mr. Kennedy declared in 2002. He spearheaded the trial-lawyer assault on the Roundup herbicide despite little evidence of cancer-causing risk. Ballooning litigation costs have spurred Bayer to consider pulling Roundup from the U.S. market, which would benefit competing Chinese manufacturers.

The same is true of Mr. Kennedy’s anti-business agenda. Beijing would like nothing more than for Mr. Kennedy to use his clout at HHS to hobble U.S. biotech innovation and American drug makers. By the way, where does Mr. Kennedy think most of the “natural supplements” that he touts as alternatives to medicines are produced? The answer is China.

Some Republicans have rallied in support of Mr. Kennedy because they think he will make public-health agencies more transparent and weed out alleged collusion between Big Pharma and government. But he lacks the experience and temperament to manage, let alone reform, HHS’s unwieldy bureaucracy. Mr. Kennedy’s expertise is as a gadfly.

Mr. Trump’s desire to focus on America’s health agencies is welcome, but RFK Jr. won’t make America healthier. He’s more likely to harm public health by spreading confusion and attacking the American companies that are saving lives and feeding the

Folks - this man is a nutcase who goes around suing American companies and trying to fear monger about how bad what they do is so he can taint a jury pool and win a verdict. And he’s good at it. Please understand that nothing this man says is true. I’m sure our posters on this board who work in farming would love to hear that they are more dangerous to America than Al-Qaeda. 😏

From the WSJ today .


Start with his longtime campaign against vaccines. “There is no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective,” he told CNN last December. None? Has polio nearly vanished on its own?

“A mountain of scientific study links autism to early vaccination with certain vaccines,” he told NBC News in March. No, it doesn’t. The Wakefield study that was the basis for this claim was the result of fraudulent research.

Mr. Kennedy has toned down his anti-vaccine evangelism of late, and he now says he merely wants parents to have a choice of vaccinating their children. But places in the U.S. where parents have sought exemptions from school vaccine mandates have experienced more community outbreaks of measles.

He has suggested that “wifi radiation” is increasing autism, food allergies, asthma and chronic illnesses. “I think it degrades your mitochondria and it opens your blood-brain barrier,” he told podcaster Joe Rogan last year. There’s no evidence for that either. Nor for his claims that chemicals in sunscreen are hazardous.

Mr. Kennedy has blamed chemicals in water and consumer products for every health ill from cancer to gender dysphoria among young people. Genetically modified foods are another RFK Jr. villain. He has proposed that the government create organic-farming communes to treat drug addictions. The American diet could certainly improve, and processed foods have contributed to obesity and chronic diseases. But Americans don’t want to know how high food prices would be if it were all produced “organically.”

Like vaccines, genetically modified crops have been one of the modern age’s greatest inventions. They have increased crop yields, reduced spoilage and pesticide use, and enabled farmers to end starvation. Perhaps Mr. Trump is unaware of Mr. Kennedy’s animus against U.S. farmers, who have been among his most loyal supporters.

“Large-scale hog producers are a greater threat to the United States and U.S. democracy than Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network,” Mr. Kennedy declared in 2002. He spearheaded the trial-lawyer assault on the Roundup herbicide despite little evidence of cancer-causing risk. Ballooning litigation costs have spurred Bayer to consider pulling Roundup from the U.S. market, which would benefit competing Chinese manufacturers.

The same is true of Mr. Kennedy’s anti-business agenda. Beijing would like nothing more than for Mr. Kennedy to use his clout at HHS to hobble U.S. biotech innovation and American drug makers. By the way, where does Mr. Kennedy think most of the “natural supplements” that he touts as alternatives to medicines are produced? The answer is China.

Some Republicans have rallied in support of Mr. Kennedy because they think he will make public-health agencies more transparent and weed out alleged collusion between Big Pharma and government. But he lacks the experience and temperament to manage, let alone reform, HHS’s unwieldy bureaucracy. Mr. Kennedy’s expertise is as a gadfly.

Mr. Trump’s desire to focus on America’s health agencies is welcome, but RFK Jr. won’t make America healthier. He’s more likely to harm public health by spreading confusion and attacking the American companies that are saving lives and feeding the world.

We're the most obese and sick country in the world, so yeah, let's not try some new thinking on our nation's health.

 

[Zonadog]

Yyeah, we're



We're the most obese and sick country in the world, so yeah, let's not try some new thinking on our nation's health.

Highest health care cost per capita, 60th in the world in life expectancy.

 

[wwforest]

Sharyl Attkisson is a 5-time Emmy Award winner and recipient of the Edward R. Murrow award for investigative reporting. She's a NYT bestselling author, managing editor of the National broadcast TV program “Full Measure,”

Tivo, time to come out from under your rock and see what is going on in the real world.

Sharyl Atkkisson is probably the #1 reporter in the country.

 

[PotimusWillie]

I don’t know a more simple way to explain this to you: vaccines work, and they do not cause autism.

OK, you’ve convinced me.

Now help me with the data to convince my friends and family. If you are hiding personal research, shame on you!

 

[agentorange70]

The New York Times just attacked RFK's position on food coloring with cereal ..

The new york times position is that yellow 40 chemical food coloring is as much or more healthy than food coloring done in Canada which uses blueberries and super fruits for food coloring

In my youth,...I sure enjoyed plucking yellow 40 from the briar patch

 

[DawglegrightinSC]

I don’t know a more simple way to explain this to you: vaccines work, and they do not cause autism.

 

[TivoliDawg]

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If I gambled, I would bet you any amount that 50% of the male population won’t have autism by 2030. That’s five years and two months. Lol

Also, who is taking 90 vaccines? Does that even make sense? Do you have kids? Anyone with kids knows these posts are ridiculous.

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1) nothing here refutes my claim that vaccines work and they do not cause autism
2) Jillian makes some seemingly well thought out points. That was a more reasonable post than 99% of the vaccine denial posts I’ve read.

If you want to get your health information from Jillian Michaels on Twitter and trial lawyer RKJ Jr., go ahead. I’ll get mine from Emory and from doctors.

 

[TivoliDawg]

OK, you’ve convinced me.

Now help me with the data to convince my friends and family. If you are hiding personal research, shame on you!

OK, you’ve convinced me.

Now help me with the data to convince my friends and family. If you are hiding personal research, shame on you!

If your friend and family are not convinced by thr millions of real world use cases and decades of research, and 99.9% consensus from the medical community, then you are not objective… you are not interested in being convinced.

And I can’t help you.

So I guess you will be refusing all vaccines for yourself, your kids, and your grandkids?

Because if you are not refusing all these vaccines then you’re arguing just to argue.

If you are someone who refuses all vaccines, then you’re dumb but at least you’re honest. If you post all this stuff and then still take vaccines (like literally everyone else) then what are we taking about?

 

[PotimusWillie]

If your friend and family are not convinced by thr millions of real world use cases and decades of research, and 99.9% consensus from the medical community, then you are not objective… you are not interested in being convinced.

And I can’t help you.

So I guess you will be refusing all vaccines for yourself, your kids, and your grandkids?

Because if you are not refusing all these vaccines then you’re arguing just to argue.

If you are someone who refuses all vaccines, then you’re dumb but at least you’re honest. If you post all this stuff and then still take vaccines (like literally everyone else) then what are we taking about?

Never said I refuse all vaccines. YOU said vaccines are safe and don’t cause autism.

You state it without question. Prove it with facts, not opinion.

No, I did not take the Covid vaccine. And I did and do take Ivermectin.

I never got Covid.

Did you get the Covid vaccine?
Did you ever get Covid?

You know, the Covid vaccine that wasn’t really a vaccine.

 

[TivoliDawg]

Never said I refuse all vaccines. YOU said vaccines are safe and don’t cause autism.

You state it without question. Prove it with facts, not opinion.

No, I did not take the Covid vaccine. And I did and do take Ivermectin.

I never got Covid.

Did you get the Covid vaccine?
Did you ever get Covid?

You know, the Covid vaccine that wasn’t really a vaccine.

I got the Covid vaccine. I have no idea if I have ever had Covid.

I don’t need to prove anything. Vaccine deniers and their cousins, the vaccine-autism folks, already know what they want to believe.

But these arguments are always so dumb. If you take vaccines, and your kids and grandkids do, then you are saying with your actions how you feel. On the other hand, if you refuse all vaccinations (ya know because they’re not proven safe and effective) then that’s foolish but at least honest.

 

[Georgia Jim]

Never said I refuse all vaccines. YOU said vaccines are safe and don’t cause autism.

You state it without question. Prove it with facts, not opinion.

No, I did not take the Covid vaccine. And I did and do take Ivermectin.

I never got Covid.

Did you get the Covid vaccine?
Did you ever get Covid?

You know, the Covid vaccine that wasn’t really a vaccine.

Yep..."Vaccine" that did not prevent anyone from getting it...nor keep anyone from spreading the virus to others.

 

[ugadoc]

Can you stop living in the extremes? This isn’t about “owning the libs”, it’s about the success of our country.

This guy is a nut and is dangerous.

Everyone in the Biden cabinet is dangerous. EVERYONE

 

[PotimusWillie]

I got the Covid vaccine. I have no idea if I have ever had Covid.

I don’t need to prove anything. Vaccine deniers and their cousins, the vaccine-autism folks, already know what they want to believe.

But these arguments are always so dumb. If you take vaccines, and your kids and grandkids do, then you are saying with your actions how you feel. On the other hand, if you refuse all vaccinations (ya know because they’re not proven safe and effective) then that’s foolish but at least honest.

Really? Interesting.

Define vaccine. Define immunization.

Please provide medical evidence that all vaccinations are safe.

 

[ugateke24]

The FDA has been a puppet of corporations for a while now. In the USA many things are illegal or natural remedies are claimed unsafe, while big pharma makes products that are just as dangerous.

As someone who has always tried to maintain a certain level of health and fitness, many products are available in europe that are deemed dangerous here. FDA needs serious reform and I am excited that we are getting someone who will chalenge the narattive.

Big pharma and Big business used to be hated my liberals but now they embrace them

I think to many libs just repeat hit pieces and do 0 actually research or they repeat research sponsored by big pharma.

 

[lnholland1]

Never said I refuse all vaccines. YOU said vaccines are safe and don’t cause autism.

You state it without question. Prove it with facts, not opinion.

No, I did not take the Covid vaccine. And I did and do take Ivermectin.

I never got Covid.

Did you get the Covid vaccine?
Did you ever get Covid?

You know, the Covid vaccine that wasn’t really a vaccine.

I have a family who goes to my gym, they don’t do vaccines, they don’t do ibuprofen, processed foods, etc. They are literally never sick, they are all in extremely good shape, have nice skin, hair, etc. No acne, no chronic conditions, none of it. Our food and “medications” are absolutely poisoning us. Trust the science, as they make billions off of our illnesses and diseases. No sane person can look at our FDA approved ingredients, foods, etc. and not put 2 and 2 together. I used to work at an ICF for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. I cannot tell you how many times I met mothers who told me their child was completely normal before a certain vaccine. Could talk, interact, etc. It absolutely should be questioned and looked into.

 

[atlanta cock#]

I got the Covid vaccine. I have no idea if I have ever had Covid.

I don’t need to prove anything. Vaccine deniers and their cousins, the vaccine-autism folks, already know what they want to believe.

But these arguments are always so dumb. If you take vaccines, and your kids and grandkids do, then you are saying with your actions how you feel. On the other hand, if you refuse all vaccinations (ya know because they’re not proven safe and effective) then that’s foolish but at least honest.

RFK is correct about the food. Net net, he's a plus.

 

[DawglegrightinSC]

If I gambled, I would bet you any amount that 50% of the male population won’t have autism by 2030. That’s five years and two months. Lol

Also, who is taking 90 vaccines? Does that even make sense? Do you have kids? Anyone with kids knows these posts are ridiculous.

Not sure about the total being 90 but the chart is referring to is the amount of doses, not the amount of vaccines. Most vaccines require multiple doses and the amount of doses is stunning. They test to see how effective the vaccines are at preventing the flu, covid,... but do they study and report accurately the extent of the adverse reactions? Do they study how each dose reacts when given with multiple other vaccine doses? I am glad you have faith in our government and big Pharma. I don't and am just wanting a little transparency on what they are putting in our kids.

1) nothing here refutes my claim that vaccines work and they do not cause autism
2) Jillian makes some seemingly well thought out points. That was a more reasonable post than 99% of the vaccine denial posts I’ve read.

If you want to get your health information from Jillian Michaels on Twitter and trial lawyer RKJ Jr., go ahead. I’ll get mine from Emory and from doctors.

I am not arguing whether vaccines work or not. Just saying some may be more harmful than what they are "protecting" us from. Again, transparency, That is what Jillian and RFK Jr. are bringing to the table.