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Amazed at the NH voter analysis, on Trump

1) Trump is an asshole with questionable character.

2) voting for him over Biden is the biggest no brainer in election history.

Some of the most effective leaders and negotiators are assholes. Biden is the most ineffective leader in American Presidential History.

Personally I’m a bigger fan of having more dough, feeling safe from terrorists, and being able to buy shit without borrowing at 8 percent, and But by all means stick to your ideological political guns and watch your situation go from shit to worse than shit.
 
Context, context my friend. Would like to see the entirety of what was supposedly said from a credible source….not just part of it.

Politics is a dirty game.
 
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I couldn’t agree more. I don’t get it, but there are several posters who have said they will not vote for Trump right here. My only hope is this time around they won’t vote for Biden either. I totally get the feeling of not wanting to vote for Trump. But voting for Biden is embarrassing for anyone. Tells you how bad the two candidates are. I can’t imagine wanting to admit you voted for a guy (Biden)with the lowest approval rating EVER, for a president running for reelection. Even lower than Carter’s. A lot of denial from the left out there. Especially the elitist left, but that point is really hard to argue.
If Biden-Obama go back in I am afraid this country will go through a revolution. I don’t think the working classes will put up with their shit anymore. I hate to see it happen but I am afraid the silent majority will have enough.
 
It is the definition of cutting off your nose, to spite your face. And one of my fundamental issues with the Republican Party.

Democrats don't do this.

How many Democrats say, "Ehhhh.....I think I'll vote for the opposition, since our candidate isn't perfect"

This country needs better leadership. I'm not a Trump guy. But he gives us the best chance for improvement in in the White House
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not sure where you got the info.....if it's another poll, I have a tendency not to believe them. I seem to remember that Trump was behind in them in '16 by double digits.

If it is an article, I have a tendency not to believe them either. A lot of game playing going on. Don't know for sure......but guessing the opposition (dem) wants Trump supporters to believe Haley is a better candidate for a reason.

Me.....I just tune all that shat out and vote.
I genuinely do not care that the Republican Party taking marching orders from former Trotsky disciples like Bill Buckley was sometimes effective at winning election during the time the national democrat party betrayed the solid south.

I care how they govern and what they do for me and mine and the Neoconservatives have been utterly disastrous.
Who are you calling Neoconservative? Trump is not that. Trump did a damn good job when he was in there.
 
You, as in the Republican party, was ready to move on. You. as in you, were pretty adamant at one time he wouldn't be the nominee. There have been plenty of opportunities to move on. The politicians wanted to do so after Jan. 6th, but the people didn't want to. So they had to tone down their rhetoric and start acting like it wasn't a big deal. You know, they lock themselves in a basement two or three times a year when police are escorting visitor's inside the Capitol.

He's there because you (as in a majority of you all) want him there. Sad. And if you lose, you'll have nothing to blame but you all.
When did I ever say he wouldn’t be the nominee. I hoped he wouldn’t. I don’t remember guaranteeing anything. You just glossed over Biden. Not one word about him at all. His weakness. His awful policies. You are just owned by Trump. You can’t even say anything bad about Biden. Do you have eyes? Or are you a total circle the wagon Democrat these days.

Please explain to me why Biden is such a great candidate for you. You have an agenda. Trump bad. If you can’t admit this admin is dogshit, there is no helping you. I at least wish there was another candidate. You actually like the hair sniffing, smooth brained pedo.
 
I'm not sold on the idea that Republicans can win, no matter who they nominate. Despite his unpopularity, Democrats will rally around Biden. The Republicans are not as unified.

Trump stands a better chance than Haley, in my opinion.
These Dems will vote for Putin if the DNC told them to. They are an ignorant and brainwashed class of people.
 
When did I ever say he wouldn’t be the nominee. I hoped he wouldn’t. I don’t remember guaranteeing anything. You just glossed over Biden. Not one word about him at all. His weakness. His awful policies. You are just owned by Trump. You can’t even say anything bad about Biden. Do you have eyes? Or are you a total circle the wagon Democrat these days.

Please explain to me why Biden is such a great candidate for you. You have an agenda. Trump bad. If you can’t admit this admin is dogshit, there is no helping you. I at least wish there was another candidate. You actually like the hair sniffing, smooth brained pedo.
You were pretty confident he wasn't going to be after he lost the first one. You seemed to have already moved on to Desantis and were confident that someone would step up. Claimed I had PTrumpSD and that my fears were unfounded.

You blew off the idea that he'd get the nomination again. Been a while back. Tried to tell you.
 
You were pretty confident he wasn't going to be after he lost the first one. You seemed to have already moved on to Desantis and were confident that someone would step up. Claimed I had PTrumpSD and that my fears were unfounded.
After the first what? Primary?
 
It's a BS false narrative fake news is continuiously spreading.

Just like the BS story that Trump will become a dictator on Day 1, seeking out his enemies, piling on BS charges and draging them into court and sending them to prison................................kinda like the DIMS are doing to him right now? 🤣

DIMS are a cancer.
 
You were pretty confident he wasn't going to be after he lost the first one. You seemed to have already moved on to Desantis and were confident that someone would step up. Claimed I had PTrumpSD and that my fears were unfounded.

You blew off the idea that he'd get the nomination again. Been a while back. Tried to tell you.
Still not one word in your post about Biden and the job he has done.
 
I dislike Trump and would have voted for Chris C or Desantis but I will vote for him over Biden after seeing what has happened to a beautiful state like California under democratic control for a long period of time.
 
I really wanted Haley to win. I do not like Trump as a person but I agree with most of his policies. So I'll be holding my nose while I cast a vote for Trump.

I think that the Republicans need to make a bigger issue of the highly likely occurrence that Biden would be unable to complete a second term and that Harris would be even more of a disaster than Biden has been.
 
Dear lord. You are putting a lot at the feet of roughly 50% of Americans. Name calling, inaccurate assumptions, gross exaggerations and mischaracterizations. In the words of a once famous comedian..."There's your sign".
You are wrong sir. I know dims don’t like to be told the truth but it is easy to prove what a vote for the dim party is. I don’t have time for a couple of weeks, I’m currently on an Antartica cruise and only have my phone. But when I get home I will gladly show you everything I said about what the dim party and its candidate is the exact truth. If you want to see it just say the word. If you would rather lie to yourself and spend your life with your head in the sand just move on and keep your wrongness to yourself.
 
I really wanted Haley to win. I do not like Trump as a person but I agree with most of his policies. So I'll be holding my nose while I cast a vote for Trump.

I think that the Republicans need to make a bigger issue of the highly likely occurrence that Biden would be unable to complete a second term and that Harris would be even more of a disaster than Biden has been.
Haley is a rino lib Bad idea.
 
I am shocked to hear the number of Republican voters, who say, if Trump is the nominee, they will vote for Biden.

I can't wrap my brain around that.

I get not liking Trump. But I don't get going so far, as to vote for Joe Biden.
I was a vocal never trumpet up until Election Day and I gladly voted Trump. No way could I vote for Killary and the same for Biden. Most of those are big talkers but when push comes to shove…
 
Wouldn’t you think that the condition this country is in they would have wised up by now. Look at what will be left with another Obama Biden term in office. Your children and grandchildren will pay the price for your ignorance and stubbornness. I personally don’t like his antics but he was a hell of a good President
What "will be left with another Obama/ Biden term"? It's easy to make up demons but have no specifics.
 
You say this every time. And every time I say he hasn't been very good. You just don't hear it or read it.
It’s annoying right. The same way in my op I said it says a lot about the two candidates left. You flew right over that. Problem Is voting for Biden is an embarrassment. If you were an independent who did so in 2020’i understand. Not anymore. He was a terrible president. He also is not well. Doing it again, I don’t have the words.
 
It’s annoying right. The same way in my op I said it says a lot about the two candidates left. You flew right over that. Problem Is voting for Biden is an embarrassment. If you were an independent who did so in 2020’i understand. Not anymore. He was a terrible president. He also is not well. Doing it again, I don’t have the words.
I didn't. I should have let you know what you meant. But I was talking about the Republicans one time and you the next. But again, what I said is true. You were saying the Republicans would move on from Trump and they haven't. And I told you they wouldn't. But you know, I just had Trump derangement syndrome or whatever you all were calling it.
 
Folks,
I apologize for starting this thread and then abandoning the discussion. Yesterday was not a good day. Prayers appreciated.
Lord please show your mercy and grace for this humble servant, and please lord help bring this country back together from the direction it has been heading lately. Speak to our hearts lord, and help us have the wisdom to make the right choices, always. I thank you for all good things in my life, in Christs name amen.
 
When did I ever say he wouldn’t be the nominee. I hoped he wouldn’t. I don’t remember guaranteeing anything. You just glossed over Biden. Not one word about him at all. His weakness. His awful policies. You are just owned by Trump. You can’t even say anything bad about Biden. Do you have eyes? Or are you a total circle the wagon Democrat these days.

Please explain to me why Biden is such a great candidate for you. You have an agenda. Trump bad. If you can’t admit this admin is dogshit, there is no helping you. I at least wish there was another candidate. You actually like the hair sniffing, smooth brained pedo.
You keep saying anyone voting for Biden should be embarrassed, but it appears this will be the only alternative.

When someone tells us over and over again who he is and what his plans are, we should believe him.

He says he is above the law and now shares in detail how he’s going to purge the government via a personal/ideological loyalty test. Sound familiar?

He’s not going to capture the independent voters and a lot of Republicans will tolerate another four years of Biden over this.

Please note I’m not insulting you or any of his other supporters. Y’all believe what you believe. I’m simply saying that this guy is not going to be handed the reins of government again, and for very good reasons.

 
You keep saying anyone voting for Biden should be embarrassed, but it appears this will be the only alternative.

When someone tells us over and over again who he is and what his plans are, we should believe him.

He says he is above the law and now shares in detail how he’s going to purge the government via a personal/ideological loyalty test. Sound familiar?

He’s not going to capture the independent voters and a lot of Republicans will tolerate another four years of Biden over this.

Please note I’m not insulting you or any of his other supporters. Y’all believe what you believe. I’m simply saying that this guy is not going to be handed the reins of government again, and for very good reasons.

He's gone completely nuts.
 
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You keep saying anyone voting for Biden should be embarrassed, but it appears this will be the only alternative.

When someone tells us over and over again who he is and what his plans are, we should believe him.

He says he is above the law and now shares in detail how he’s going to purge the government via a personal/ideological loyalty test. Sound familiar?

He’s not going to capture the independent voters and a lot of Republicans will tolerate another four years of Biden over this.

Please note I’m not insulting you or any of his other supporters. Y’all believe what you believe. I’m simply saying that this guy is not going to be handed the reins of government again, and for very good reasons.

This take actually warms my heart a little. It sucks doesn’t it. He is declaring war on the far left. Period. The same way Biden declared war on his followers. In anyone who supported him. I keep telling you this and you never, ever listen. There is always an opposite reaction from the other side to said actions by the left. You only disapprove because trump is saying it. You think we should gasp.

Biden admin has literally said they would take down Trump and his supporters. For the big lie and anyone who believes the election could have been fraudulent. We are going to let the folks from the summer of love continue to run wild, while putting people in jail for years for Jan 6th.

You guys are supposed to be the party of inclusion. It would have been a great time to heal the country. Let’s stop attacking each other. You kept going after him and making him more popular by the day. He has stolen 15 percent of the AA vote recently because according to polls he is being treated unfairly by the doj.

Why not say, you have to be punished for Jan 6th, but we will cut all of you loose after six months. It is time for the country to heal. Nope, the left wanted to use the irs and any other government agency against the deplorables remember. Now you are upset when the shoe is on the other foot.

I told you opening Pandora’s box wasn’t going to end well. He just told his base and others who are sick of Washington he is going to fix it by any means necessary. You wanted to get him so you could feel all warm and fuzzy inside. You reap what you _____.

I hope he comes to his senses and like most politicians his bark is worse than his bite. This isn’t what the country needs imo. But it is likely what it wants for a great many. Sorry will.
 
I didn't. I should have let you know what you meant. But I was talking about the Republicans one time and you the next. But again, what I said is true. You were saying the Republicans would move on from Trump and they haven't. And I told you they wouldn't. But you know, I just had Trump derangement syndrome or whatever you all were calling it.
I really believe they would have. But the msm can’t stop talking about him. And the left because of severe tds can’t stop going after him. Kept him relevant because he helps their ratings. Politicians from the left used going after him as a campaign slogan kckd. Scary stuff or should be if you are a conservative. This didn’t happen to former presidents. They usually fade into obscurity. The left opened Pandora’s box. Now if he gets in, he is going to go after the people that went after him. Because number one, unfortunately, that is who he is, and number two because Washington earned it.

They didn’t pass or do one thing to appease fifty percent of the country in 3 years. Even Trump didn’t do that the first time around. He took a meeting with ray Lewis and Jim brown in his first few months. Asked them what do you need? Look it up. But he is the bigger racist than Biden. Whose bigotry comes to the surface constantly. Trump is going to win. Only the tds folks to blame. You couldn’t let him go. What is worse. He is a martyr
 
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He just told his base and others who are sick of Washington he is going to fix it by any means necessary. You wanted to get him so you could feel all warm and fuzzy inside. You reap what you _____.

I hope he comes to his senses and like most politicians his bark is worse than his bite. This isn’t what the country needs imo. But it is likely what it wants for a great many. Sorry will.
Comes to his senses? There's no way you really believe that. If he was ever going to come to his senses, he would have instructed his followers to leave the Capitol once the protest became a violent attack, instead of waiting over three hours before reluctantly telling them to "leave in peace". He's the one person who could have diffused the attack because they were there at his instruction and carrying his flags. That's the definition of too little, too late.

By your telling, Trump isn't responsible for anything, he's just responding to the Dems. Moral relativism and whataboutism at its finest.

The idea that someone as utterly morally bankrupt as DJT should be above the law and is the one person who can "fix (Washington) by any means" is not a proposition that's going to resonate with the electorate.
 
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Comes to his senses? There's no way you really believe that. If he was ever going to come to his senses, he would have instructed his followers to leave the Capitol once the protest became a violent attack, instead of waiting over three hours before reluctantly telling them to "leave in peace". He's the one person who could have diffused the attack because they were there at his instruction and carrying his flags. That's the definition of too little, too late.

By your telling, Trump isn't responsible for anything, he's just responding to the Dems. Moral relativism and whataboutism at its finest.

The idea that someone as utterly morally bankrupt as DJT should be above the law and is the one person who can "fix (Washington) by any means" is not a proposition that's going to resonate with the electorate.
I am using his words. Not mine on the fix Washington by any means necessary. I think that is a lot of wind. Personally. You kept him relevant. As far as morally bankrupt, no one went after Clinton when he left. He was getting handies and blowies in the Oval Office while married.

He isn’t above the law. But by breaking this precedent for mostly bs. And if you say it isn’t for political gain will, you are completely naive. The folks ran with the slogan of getting him. This got people elected.

Your compass is sideways. And you have a guy pinching 8 year old nipples in the White House. Get off your moral pedestal please.

If Trump wasn’t running, none of these trials take place. Period. It is a distraction for the clusterf that is this administration and president. Now you have broken a precedent. What happens from here is on the progressive left. Just a fact.
 
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I really believe they would have. But the msm can’t stop talking about him. And the left because of severe tds can’t stop going after him. Kept him relevant because he helps their ratings. Politicians from the left used going after him as a campaign slogan kckd. Scary stuff or should be if you are a conservative. This didn’t happen to former presidents. They usually fade into obscurity. The left opened Pandora’s box. Now if he gets in, he is going to go after the people that went after him. Because number one, unfortunately, that is who he is, and number two because Washington earned it.

They didn’t pass or do one thing to appease fifty percent of the country in 3 years. Even Trump didn’t do that the first time around. He took a meeting with ray Lewis and Jim brown in his first few months. Asked them what do you need? Look it up. But he is the bigger racist than Biden. Whose bigotry comes to the surface constantly. Trump is going to win. Only the tds folks to blame. You couldn’t let him go. What is worse. He is a martyr
Wow! The Right is one weak bunch. The Left is letting the Right do their dirty work for them.
 
I am using his words. Not mine on the fix Washington by any means necessary. I think that is a lot of wind. Personally. You kept him relevant. As far as morally bankrupt, no one went after Clinton when he left. He was getting handies and blowies in the Oval Office while married.

He isn’t above the law. But by breaking this precedent for mostly bs. And if you say it isn’t for political gain will, you are completely naive. The folks ran with the slogan of getting him. This got people elected.

Your compass is sideways. And you have a guy pinching 8 year old nipples in the White House. Get off your moral pedestal please.

If Trump wasn’t running, none of these trials take place. Period. It is a distraction for the clusterf that is this administration and president. Now you have broken a precedent. What happens from here is on the progressive left. Just a fact.
Interesting that you mentioned Bill Clinton. If anyone removed the lid from Pandora's Box, as you keep saying, it was the republican's relentless pursuit of Clinton. But there is a reason that Clinton and Trump had to navigate endless investigations and legal difficulties and Bush and Obama didn't. Clinton and Trump are both corrupt, morally bankrupt individuals who gave investigators a lot to work with.

Of course, Donald would be overjoyed to only be dealing with something as legally inconsequential as handies and blowies in the WH, which is all they could ever nail Bill with. You have essentially admitted that Trump is guilty in the documents case, and that's something that could very easily end up with a jail term.
 
Interesting that you mentioned Bill Clinton. If anyone removed the lid from Pandora's Box, as you keep saying, it was the republican's relentless pursuit of Clinton. But there is a reason that Clinton and Trump had to navigate endless investigations and legal difficulties and Bush and Obama didn't. Clinton and Trump are both corrupt, morally bankrupt individuals who gave investigators a lot to work with.

Of course, Donald would be overjoyed to only be dealing with something as legally inconsequential as handies and blowies in the WH, which is all they could ever nail Bill with. You have essentially admitted that Trump is guilty in the documents case, and that's something that could very easily end up with a jail term.
Yea. Same with Biden in the doc case. He wasn’t even president. Not even knowing he had the docs is enough for me to wonder if he is fit. I guess not for you. Hunter. Who is on the board of several foreign companies for no reason at all. Was driving his father’s corvette all the time. With top secret docs in the car. He and daddy have likely sold out the country. But you are fine with that. It doesn’t bother you a bit.

A president who is allowed to have classified docs. Kept them too long. Likely stupidly bragged about having them and showed them to people. Not to hurt the country, but to stroke his ego. This bothers you way more I suppose than the current dumbass of the century in office. Do you take those two scenarios and see any difference? Just curious.

Then they raid his home. They gave Hillary a heads up before coming. Yet after admitting in court, we may be a little over zealous. They still raid his home. And you have trouble believing he doesn’t want to overhaul the doj and crush his liberal enemies. Shocking. Again. No one went after Clinton after he left office. Anyone left to testify against him is already dead anyway.

There are so many people that think bush and Obama are corrupt it isn’t even funny. That is the most naive statement you have ever put out there. But they were out of office. So no one went after them. And both mostly faded away.
 
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You’re all wrong. NH is just an extension of Massachusetts now, and it didn’t take much, maybe 300k-500k people. Half my HS class lives there, and the other half lives In Gloucester MA, and the world.
 
Yea. Same with Biden in the doc case. He wasn’t even president. Not even knowing he had the docs is enough for me to wonder if he is fit. I guess not for you. Hunter. Who is on the board of several foreign companies for no reason at all. Was driving his father’s corvette all the time. With top secret docs in the car. He and daddy have likely sold out the country. But you are fine with that. It doesn’t bother you a bit.

A president who is allowed to have classified docs. Kept them too long. Likely stupidly bragged about having them and showed them to people. Not to hurt the country, but strokes ego. This bothers you way more I suppose than the current dumbass of the century in office. Do you take those two scenarios and see any difference? Just curious.

Then they raid his home. They have Hillary a heads up before coming. Yet after admitting in court, we may be a little over zealous. They still raid his home. And you have trouble believing he doesn’t want to overhaul the doj and crush his liberal enemies. Shocking. Again. No one went after Clinton after he left office. Anyone left to testify against him is already dead anyway.

There are so many people that think bush and Obama are corrupt it isn’t even funny. That is the most naive statement you have ever put out there. But they were out of office. So no one went after them. And both mostly faded away.
Trump had Meadows load up the trunk of his car with highly classified documents the last night before leaving the Whitehouse, transported those and other highly classified documents (337 to be exact) to his club in FL, lied multiple times about having returned them all and was then finally raided because the FBI gave him two more chances than they would have given anyone else to return the damn papers and he didn't. Trump was still lying about having them and was storing them in a bathroom and on a stage in the basement. If they had raided Mar A Lago and found nothing, you'd kind of have an argument. Instead, they found 102 classified documents that Trump refused to return, some of which were highly sensitive.

Biden and his team found the documents, informed the government immediately and cooperated with the investigation. Yet somehow that's worse.

There isn't much point is debating with you. You feel Trump is unfairly maligned, he hasn't done anything that other presidents aren't also guilty of, if reelected, he wouldn't really behave as if he is above the law, even though his lawyers are making that case in court right now, and on and on and on.

My point is, don't be surprised when independents and reasonable republicans view Trump and his behavior in a less charitable light, which was the original topic of this thread. He's going to end up screwing the GOP again just as he did in 2018, 2020 and 2022.
 
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What "will be left with another Obama/ Biden term"? It's easy to make up demons but have no specifics.
With this redistribution of wealth bs they are attempting there will be no middle class anymore. There will be 2 classes rich and poor. Whites will be treated like the bottom of the barrel scum. Communism will come out of the closet and be the new government.
 
Trump had Meadows load up the trunk of his car with highly classified documents the last night before leaving the Whitehouse, transported those and other highly classified documents (337 to be exact) to his club in FL, lied multiple times about having returned them all and was then finally raided because the FBI gave him two more chances than they would have given anyone else to return the damn papers and he didn't. Trump was still lying about having them and was storing them in a bathroom and on a stage in the basement. If they had raided Mar A Lago and found nothing, you'd kind of have an argument. Instead, they found 102 classified documents that Trump refused to return, some of which were highly sensitive.

Biden and his team found the documents, informed the government immediately and cooperated with the investigation. Yet somehow that's worse.

There isn't much point is debating with you. You feel Trump is unfairly maligned, he hasn't done anything that other presidents aren't also guilty of, if reelected, he wouldn't really behave as if he is above the law, even though his lawyers are making that case in court right now, and on and on and on.

My point is, don't be surprised when independents and reasonable republicans view Trump and his behavior in a less charitable light, which was the original topic of this thread. He's going to end up screwing the GOP again just as he did in 2018, 2020 and 2022.
Both are bad. Which is worse. Having a crack addict son in several boards driving around with top secret docs in a corvette. When his position as a politician didn’t support having said items in his home. Or a president taking home items he can declassify, that every president has in their museums when they leave. It is being said by said doj. They are highly classified. If that is the case, and Trump is doing something terrible with them. He should be held accountable. This is again where I have said they may have him. But they damn sure better throw the book at Biden as well.
 
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